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Old 10-28-2007 | 10:21 AM
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Yes I burn Jet A, can't find Jet anymore. I get it free from work, whenever we have to defuel an airplane or heli I put it in my truck. I mix it with 10w-30 oil and a ton of diesel conditioner. Truck runs fine, tiny bit less power but who cares.
Old 10-28-2007 | 11:36 AM
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This is my second diesel. My first was a 6.9L Ford back in '85. That truck developed problems around 40K. My '07 5.9L has 11k and it is already starting to idle rough and performance has dropped. The domestic dealers are bunch of no talent *** clowns. The truck is going up for sale and I will never buy a diesel or a domestic again. I am tired of being paranoid of fuel quality, turbo noise, the stink and smell, and the cost of diesel (which in my area is .50 cents more than regular) and the constant putting off of the domestic dealers. The technology of gas motors today has closed the gap between gas and diesel in terms of power and fuel efficiency, especially with the new emission requirements for diesels. Look what Toyota has done with their new Tundra with the 5.7L gas motor. 380 h.p. and over 400 lbs of torque getting an average of 16 mpg. Thats what I average in fuel mileage but I spent over $40,000 and .50 cents more in fuel. I never tow over 10,000lbs anyways. See you domestics, will the last one leaving Detroit please turn off the lights.
Old 10-28-2007 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by kpatrick
This is my second diesel. My first was a 6.9L Ford back in '85. That truck developed problems around 40K. My '07 5.9L has 11k and it is already starting to idle rough and performance has dropped. The domestic dealers are bunch of no talent *** clowns. The truck is going up for sale and I will never buy a diesel or a domestic again. I am tired of being paranoid of fuel quality, turbo noise, the stink and smell, and the cost of diesel (which in my area is .50 cents more than regular) and the constant putting off of the domestic dealers. The technology of gas motors today has closed the gap between gas and diesel in terms of power and fuel efficiency, especially with the new emission requirements for diesels. Look what Toyota has done with their new Tundra with the 5.7L gas motor. 380 h.p. and over 400 lbs of torque getting an average of 16 mpg. Thats what I average in fuel mileage but I spent over $40,000 and .50 cents more in fuel. I never tow over 10,000lbs anyways. See you domestics, will the last one leaving Detroit please turn off the lights.

everything is matter of opinion......i have a friens who told me the exact same thing...but just the opposite!!! i didn"t liked is thundra at all...

400lbs of torque is nothing when you can have over 800 lbs of torque...

about he problem of the author of this post, something is wrong somewhere!! that"s for sure...
Old 10-28-2007 | 08:03 PM
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I had the same problem with my 04. I took it in for the check engine light and it was the TPS and they replaced in like a week the check engine light came back on so I took it back to the dealer and they told me it was the Throttle positioning sensor again. so they ordered it and i went on about my business, went on a trip and stopped at a Flying J truck stop and got fuel a couple days later truck started running poorly so took it in and they said bad fuel, the flushed the fuel system and new filter. a couple weeks later it ran bad again and i took it back and they said it was injectors going bad. so I talked to some non dodge diesel mechanic, and they said take it to a different dealer, did that and well by that time it was knocking and smoking bad, they told me i got bad fuel I had filled up 2 or 3 times from the first time bad fuel was said. they took it all apart and said new injectors and new piston and cylinder was shot, they wanted $16,000 for new engine, told them to get everything together and I had a non dodge shop fix the problems for a lot less then 16,000, still needed head fix, all new injectors because the shop said all the tips were dinted up because dodge tossed them in a box, bored and sleeved cylinder, so yeah, kinda a mess, sorry its a long post. oh and by the say Flying J said they had no other reports of bad fuel. and my dad uses the same fuel places I use.
Old 12-16-2007 | 06:40 AM
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so what was the resolution to this thread?
Old 12-16-2007 | 08:47 AM
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mystery.......

we will never know...... lolllll
Old 12-16-2007 | 11:08 AM
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I think in short, Injectors. For some - cleaning a COF or FCA or such might buy time but from my dealings first hand, injectors. Sorry - couple months ago i didnt see it comming down to them. Its not the tips or nozzles its the check valve system within the main body, IMO
Old 12-16-2007 | 04:37 PM
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I cant believe the stuff I'm hearing on this thread, WTFO!!, Cant the people who run these forums send this crap to Dodge Headquarters and show them what is going on.

you know what? I said this before in some post on other forums as well; If I start to have a problem with my truck, I will pull some oil and fuel takes 10 minutes, send it out and go to a cummins shop and have them diognose the problem and let them give me a print out and then take it to a dealer that i believe to be honest and give them the info and let them know the oil and fuel sample has been pulled and will get them the results as soon as I get it.

try to be as informed as possible when dealing with these stealerships.
just my .02
Old 12-17-2007 | 07:11 AM
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Stock600,

What you just said is EXACTLY what I think I am dealing with. My gut feeling is that the fuel return path through the injector body is a "crap trap". In other words, I suspect that there is a way to trap debris that causes the return path to remain open, or more open, than is needed, thus reducing the pressure sensed by the CR fuel pressure sensor during cranking just enough to cause long-crank and hard start. And I don't necessarily think it affects all 6 injectors at the same time, but could. If I only had the correct fitting to physically block off 1 injector at a time to see the resulting return fuel flow........I have 1 new Bosch injector just waiting to be installed in place of the "faulty" one. Heck, ether is cheap.........................
Old 12-17-2007 | 10:22 AM
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so what was the resolution to this thread?
Keep your receipts and good maintenance records. And be known that 4500 people have read this so they now know how dealers are trying to get over on people.
Old 12-17-2007 | 10:25 AM
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Good idea , take a line loose like you said at the rail, and take the line to a hyd. or such parts store and match up the theads to get yourself a cap, when you get it specs post it and this might be something a lot of people self diagnois. Prob. a metric fine thread cap. JMO Good LUck
Old 12-17-2007 | 10:30 AM
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My thinkin' is that you'd need to cap off the open injector connector tube end as well. Whattaya think...???
Old 12-17-2007 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BWdiver
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If I start to have a problem with my truck, I will pull some oil and fuel takes 10 minutes, send it out and go to a cummins shop and have them diognose the problem
Based on info from a person here on this forum who is in Des Moines, IA with problems with his 03, Cummins has told him they can not work on any Dodge truck that is 2003 and newer. So if you know of any Cummins shop who can work on the 2003 and newer trucks please post who they are.
Old 12-17-2007 | 01:33 PM
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You can send all the info you want to Dodge they do not care. They pass the buck nto the customer and then the dealership.

You as the owner are fully responsible to ensure that your truck is maintained with in the warrenty specs.
That means when you go to the dealership for a fuel filter, you check to make sure they changed it. Other wise you may void the warrenty if a fuel related problem happens, This will leave you fighting with your local dealership about who is right and wrong.
Old 12-17-2007 | 02:11 PM
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Is it possible to ask for the used filters or is that too much of a mess. Or will they just give you one lying around?


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