http://www.kilbyenterprises.com/KE-3100-K.htm

anyone tried this system?
Is it worth the cash their asking?

What else are you using for your on board air setups?


EDIT: Hmmm.... maybe this should have been in the non drivetrain section...
my apologies for posting in the wrong section.

I thought I could delete posts? what happened to that??

 

holy cow!!!
waaayyy tooo much money!!
try here. it's what i use and a whole lot cheaper!

http://offroadair.net/products.html

 

Brads kit is complete. You can just buy the bracket kit which is what I am going to do. 300 for the kit, 45 bucks shipped for a compressor on ebay. Pressure regulator and fittings, pop off valve, and the crap you can get at home depot. I had one on my 02 with twins and will have one on my 07. Just got the compressor and am saving up for the bracket kit. Well worth it.

 

I agree .. Brad's kits are awesome and nothing will outperform a York unless you buy the oasis which is a York and costs a lot more. I've had one on two Jeeps and my last CTD. This one is definitely getting one. As posted, just get the bracket kit, pulley and belt from him. Get everything else from a local supply store and get the York off eBay. I used to run a Kelderman air ride and it used a lot of air with the auto levelers. I had a 12 gallon tank in the bed of the truck and 0 to 150psi took about 3 minutes at idle. I could run air tools all day with the engine idling and that 12 gallon tank. Probably could have done it with a much smaller tank too but I had that one. This truck is gettin dual 5 gallons on the frame.

 

Brad's bracket??


Got a link?

 

http://www.kilbyenterprises.com/bracket-kits.htm

 

is it battery operated? what if the engine won't run, does it still make air? thats alot of money for a kit which is going to rob hp from the motor and is not portable and will not even work if the motor won't run. for under 300 bones you can go with a 20lb c02 bottle and air up all the tires you want or run air tools or what ever. in my younger days i had converted an a/c pump to make air on my jeep and thought it was the cats butt, til i discovered c02.

not trying to start a war. sorry if it it seems that way. just trying to think practically. cost and usefulness.
jm.02

 

No declaration of war interpreted.

It's an engine driven converted a/c compressor. I think it's all just preference. I used to run a powertank in 99 in my Jeep until I had a few friends want to air up at the end of the trail ride and I ran out half way through doing my own tires. I then decided to get an electric but it would overheat after doing one truck and took 20 minutes. I finally hooked up with Brad and put a York on instead and I haven't looked back since. To me, if the motor isn't running I've got bigger problems that having to air up. It's definitely has pros and cons ... doesn't everything.

As for motor horsepower, I don't think it affects it except when it's running. When it's not compressing air, the clutch isn't engaged and the pulley spins with no resistance.

Another thing that I liked over the Powertank is I don't have to keep filling the tank (I was running 38" x 14.5" tires on the Jeep so I went through it fast, I would get about 10 tires before it was near empty with a 20lb tank from 5psi on the trail to 30psi on the street).

 

I have been researching this too. I really like the capacity of the engine driven pumps. I was about to pull the trigger on the bracket kit last week, until I called Kilby.

There are a couple things about this kit that bother me.
1) They have not worked out a belt length for the kit on a motor w/ the vacuum pump for the Jake.
2) Apparently the '06 (and maybe '05) trucks have a 'clutch' on the alternator which must be removed to install Kilby's double sheave alternator pulley. Apparently there is a special tool for this. From what Kilby has told me, this clutch is supposed to stop the belt squeak/squeal/chirp on shutdown.

So, I have been researching viair compressors. The ONLY thing I don't like is the volume capacity. I found several places that have a 460C for $205

I put a bill of materials together for a kit: ~$400 planned out. I like this cost aspect, vs. the kilby kit. If I buy a used compressor & tanks, I figure I'll have ~$650-700 into the Kilby.

What I want to use this for:
1) Air bags when I buy the camper, next year
2) Air Locker, when ARB finally releases the air locker for the AAM 11.5" diff
3) AIr Horn...I'm tired of little cars not payng attention & cutting me off!
4) Air tools / airing up tires for roadside repairs.

Tony

 

I've got a ViAir 550c which is my backup air supply. I'm glad it's only a backup though. I pulled it off my last Dodge with the Kelderman. I used the York as my primary and if the pressure dropped below 80psi in the tank the ViAir would turn on because the York turned on at 90psi so if it ever hit 80 that meant there was a problem with the York. During testing to see if it would keep up with the Kelderman Air Ride I found that it took about 18 minutes to go from 80psi to 150psi with the 550c in the 12 gallon tank with no air draw on the tank. When I did some driving with it it ran nonstop to try and keep up with the air ride. It wouldn't keep up with air tools, at least not the impact that I have. It was okay for short bursts and then I had to wait to get pressure back up in a 12 gallon tank.

For most of what you listed that you are wanting to do (air bags for towing, lockers, horn) the ViAir is a good option.

Also, be careful where you put it because mine gets really really hot after about 3 minutes.

 

I run a Quick air II as a backup and co2 for the main. Co2 is the only way on a trail if you want to be able to do everything. I know a lot of people that have a york but you must get a tank and stuff along with a lot of air hose to get to those that need it. Ever try to seat a bead on a 35 or bigger with a small tank? Very hard to do. Now with CO2 you will be able to run 150 psi for a few min if needed to seat it, remember the tank is under 1500psi +-.. The Co2 just grab it and Go. I don't air up all the time thats why I have a tow rig and trailer. I can use the Co2 in the truck wifes car or trailer and run tools. If you go to a york it will only be on one rig tow rig or off road rig, What one do you mount it on?? If you put it on the Ram then the off road rig will need it. Thats why I like the CO2 you can carry it anywhere. I have 2 5lbs in the Dodge and 2-10lbs Blazer and a 20lb for the trailer..... Never without air.
Jon

 

From what I've read on Viair FAQ's, they do not reccomend more than a total of 5gal air tank. That may explain why you had such a long pumping time. i.e. these are not large volume pumps. I'm not trying to pick a fight, just pointing out what i've read.

I'm still thinking out the Kilby! I can't help but like the volume the york puts out!

Still on the fence

 

I only bought it to be used as a backup in case my York stopped working so the trucks suspension would stay where it needed to be. Kelderman recommended I use a 10 gallon tank, I just happened to have a 12 gallon so I went with it. The York never gave out, I just ran the ViAir for testing in case it ever did. I'm sure with the ViAir the hotter it got, the less efficient it got.

 

Yeah, they allude to derating, but don't publish the derating curve.

 

I run the oasis air compressor....it is just the york 210 hooked up to a 12/24V electric motor....it has 100% duty cycle and will last FOREVER....I have had mine about 5 years (it was originally on my ford) and have put 1000's of hr's on it without a problem and I regularly run multiple volume air tool off it (impacts, grinders, plasma cutter) and there have been times when it has run for hours continiuosly without a problem. I have a seperate battery mounted next to the comp and a switch to isolate it from the truck batts/charging system.
If you NEED a REAL compressor onboard the OASIS is unbeatable.....even for the ~$1200 I payed for it....I have got soooo much more out of it.