I don't have the documentation to back up my statement but I read a article stating the percentages of failed Cummin engines modded/improper air and oil filters verses stock and approved filters etc.The modded made up like 90%. If that IS true there is a VERY good reason the manufacture wants a hard look see on failed engines.Also read a lab analysis article several years ago mentioning the amount of failed engine oils that were checked that were caused by failed filter matieral.Its was a lot.

 

Edge Ez, Bully Dog Triple Dog, stage 3 water/meth, i would say that has something to do with his troubles, not very encouraging words i know.

 

I havent had the Water meth on for months and only used it a few times in the summer.
The Bully dog and EZ get left on Low for milage and 95% of my Driving is Hiway miles.

 

Over the years on all these Dodge diesel sites this same type post is common.More so the last few years as the factory h.p. has increased as well as using common rail injection(failing injectors) in other words the failed engine posts are most always modded engines be it a lot or little they fail at a higher rate then stock.I had a hotshotter deliver a trailer to me with over 530k on a 05 4x4 srw 6speed truck.He had had minimum issues with the truck.It was bone stock.He said he had buddy's with splitters,fueling boxes and other mods that got to their destination no faster with no better fuel mileage but had the added expense of the mods PLUS were the ones that had severe engine failures etc.Kinda same thing the factory says.

 

Then why are you going to the effort to remove your mod's before taking it to the dealer?

One either has a conscious or not. Good luck.

 

Im taking the mods off so the Dealer Cant blame the problem in the chip that didnt cause it. I talked to my local Diesel shop and told me to do the same thing and that if its a oil problem it has nothing to do with the chips.

 

good ole boy: the "footprint" that your mods put on the truck will tell the dealer that you had mods put on it when they hook up an analyzer. You might as well open your checkbook and get ready to pay. Once they see that mods were involved, you are at the mercy of the court. They won't bother to investigate any further because they will place the blame on you and rightly so. (the mods void the warranty). And yeah, the mods caused it, sorry.

 

Funny how everyone is against good ole boy. Give him some encouriging words of advice. Don't sit and tell him how he is a POS or what his problem is. If he wants to remove his mods and take it to the dealer to try and get it fixed... Good for him. There is the possibility that his problem is NOT from the mods too. Not all dealers are created equal. I could tell you 10 stories on how my dealer would not fix things on my truck when it was NEW with NO mods. Leaky CP3. 1-2 shift hunts. Rear pass. side door wouldn't open from the inside. Leaky Radiator hose. Cam position sensor. The dealer told me " that is normal" at the time I brought the truck in for each issue. They wouldn't do anything to fix it because it was normal. Well, now that the truck is out of warrenty, they say " bring your truck on in, we will fix it for you." I say, " do you remember when I brought the truck in complaining about this and this, " NO the dealer says. Take your truck in good ole boy. I hope they fix it for you.

 

yeah, these threads kill me. All you guys with super morals, I bet if you really looked at everything you have done over your life, you wouldn't be so high and mighty. The thing is, anything you do to the truck could void the warranty so a lot of you with just these cosmetic things, I wonder if your paint started peeling and the dealer said it was because you debaged the truck, would that be ok with you? I think not.
anyway, I don't know what caused your issues, but I have seen dealers rip off enough folks. I hope it works out for you.

 

Hey "WhoozYaDaddy" thanks for comming up to Canada And taking apart my engine and figuring out that my Mods caused the Problem. That helped out alot.

I was talking to my Local Diesel Preformance shop and the main guy there was telling me that the dodge dealer always calls him up wanting to know if they can help a customer out who is complaining about Bad milage. Now Dodge wont sell them the parts but they will send them down to the diesel shop knowing that they are going to buy a chip.

 

From what I've read posted by a owner of one of the fueling box company's is that 'BOXES"don't leave footprints,down loads do and that makes sense to me.That other then connectors being messed with boxes are not detected as they are 'FOOLERS".As far as engine mods go there IS a reason that a high percentage of failed motors are modded,same as trannys and clutches. If I was in one of these situations I would NOT post it anywhere.Period.I'd handle it as I saw fit and roll with my own decisions.If I did post it I'd be prepared for these same sort of replies.This is a general public forum.As I mentioned in a earlier post this same thread topic and replies is just one of many that have almost been verbatim for a decade over and over.I did a lot of engine mods on my 93W250 12 valve.Not many posts EVER of blowing those 12 valves up.These newer higher revving CR motors fail a LOT more modded.I have a Quad 30/60/100 box I bought early on.Its a BLAST to drive with it on the 100 setting.The short while it was on I ran the 'crap' out of my truck.Thought it was a big block chevy. Pulled it off after a short while to take truck in for some 'other'warranty work and NEVER put it back on.I haven't looked back.Its sitting boxed up under my desk.Thinking about putting the stock air box back on it also.

 

Take my word for it,when you walk in the door dont go in with a chip on your sholder! I work 24 years there,and how you come across to them is how they will come across to you.

 

I think people are generalizing modded trucks way to much. There is a difference between someone who puts their programmer on the lowest setting for a tiny bit of power, but still takes it easy and turns it off for towing, and someone who stacks two on full and drives the crap out of it. This is exactly what I do, and I do not believe it is hurting my truck as I take it real easy. If you really want to get into warranty things what about the guy who starts his truck at -30F only lets in run for 1 min and then has no problem going WOT while the truck is bone cold. This is WAY harder on the truck then adding like 50hp with a box. Boxes could reduce their life, but you cannot generalize them into one lump. In this case i've got to say your truck was probably run a bit hard, but i'd doubt your engine blew because of it.

 

Wow! I guess I came on a little strong GOB. Its just that there are hundreds of these type post on the forum. Just about all of them have one thing in common, the trucks were heavily moded. Just looking at the chips, use of water methane and the posted quarter mile times and speed on your sig, its a little hard not to believe that was a major factor. I have several maintenance garages, we have done quite a bit of maintenance over the last several years and I can't begin to tell you how mods and abuse take there toll on vehicles. Little piddly stuff like brands of oil and filters are an excuse for failure when the customer neglects or abuses their vehicle. Good luck on getting the dealership to pay for it. I hope for your sake that I am wrong. And by the way Gunner, thanks for your take on integrity, always good to hear a leatherneck talk on how little integrity means.

 

Started using them in 1973 because my Dad always used them. Guess I have been lucky with my cars or maybe they started making them cheaper over the last years. After seeing the pictures that ib516 posted it is clear that they are not as good as others.