SO what about the tax break?
I have not found it any closer then 45 min from Raleigh NC but would like to try it.
When I found it in the past it was 30-50c more per gal.
The tax cut could help.
Jon

 

Rocky , this should get you started
Santa Cruz, CA 95063 Dave Lommen 831-421-0234 B100

Bay Area Diablo Petroleum
3575 Pacheco Blvd
Martinez, CA 94553 Gail Paquette 925-228-2223 B100

Bio-Friendly Fuel Partners
Danville, CA 94526 Eric Johnson 925 964-0080 B20, B100

Cool Fuel, Inc.
7201 Rosecrans Avenue
Paramount, CA 90723 Christina Hicks 562-259-0100 B20 & up

Cross Petroleum
1012 North Mt. Shasta
Mt. Shasta, CA 96067 Jimm Cross 530-221-2588 B-100

CytoCulture Internationa, Inc.
249 Tewksbury Avenue
Pt. Richmond, CA 94801 Jill Heshmati 510-233-6660 B100

General Petroleum
3815 Vineyard Avenue
Oxnard, CA 93030 Hope Bowles 805-229-1219 B20, B100

General Petroleum
19501 South Santa Fe Avenue
Rancho Dominguez, CA 90221 George Hopwood 310-356-2626 B20, B100

Golden Gate Biodiesel
8285 Brentwood Boulevard
Brentwood, CA 94513 Pat O'Keefe 800-244-4516 B2 & up

Golden Gate Biodiesel
820 26th Street
Paso Robles, CA 93446 Pat O'Keefe 800-244-4516 B2 & up

Golden Gate Biodiesel
1300 Canal Boulevard
Richmond, CA 94806 Pat O'Keefe 800-244-4516 B2 & up

Golden Gate Biodiesel
1020 Terven Avenue
Salinas, CA 93905 Pat O'Keefe 800-244-4516 B2 & up

Golden Gate Biodiesel
950 Stockton Avenue
San Jose, CA 95110 Pat O'Keefe 800-244-4516 B2 & up

Golden Gate Biodiesel
501 Shell Avenue
Martinez, CA 94553 Pat O'Keefe 800-244-4516 B2 and up

i.i. Fuels

Huntington Beach, CA 92648 Ericka Zenz 714-552-3154 All

Ifuel-ITL Incorporated
8330 South Atlantic Avenue
Cudahy, CA 90201 Mary Rohrer 323-562-3230 All

Lee Escher Oil Co., Inc.
85-119 Avenue 50
Coachella, CA 92236 Jim Combs 760-398-2051 B2 & up

Napa Valley Petroleum, Inc
257 South Kelly Rd
American Canyon, CA 94503 Dave Massey 707-252-6888 All

Pacific Biofuel
1601 Jarvis Rd
Santa Cruz, CA 95065 Ray Newkirk 831-459-6774 B100

Pinnacle Petroleum, Inc.
1500 East Pacific Coast Hwy, Ste. F
Seal Beach, CA 90740 Janice Kaufman 949-551-3835 B20, B100

Plavan Petroleum Inc.
10635 Scripps Ranch Blvd., Ste. F
San Diego, CA 92132 Tony Campbell 858-348-2581 All

San Francisco Petroleum
4290 Santa Rosa Avenue
Santa Rosa, CA 95407 Rod Martin 707-586-2765 Any

San Francisco Petroleum
4290 Santa Rosa Avenue
Santa Rosa, CA 95407 Rod Martin 707-586-2765 All

San Francisco Petroleum, Co.
2121 Third Street
San Francisco, CA 94107 Doug Seames or Barry Viles 415-621-5226 B2 & up

Supreme Oil Co.
7525 Metropolitan Drive, Ste 304
San Diego, CA 92108 Kym Clift 619-542-5020 Any blend

T.W. Brown Oil C., Inc
1457 Fleet Ave.
Ventura, CA 93003 Ted Brown 805-339-2355 B20 B100

The Soco Group
4915 Mercury Street
San Diego, CA 92111 Angus McDonald 800-458-2711 B20 , B100

Yokayo Biofuels
150 Perry Street
Ukiah, CA 95482 Kumar Plocher 877-806-0900 B100

 

Rocky, check out this site for biodiesel fueling locations.
http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodi...s/default.shtm

 

Sorry, not sure how to get the $1.00 tax break. Do you just keep the recipt and at tax time report it? SLC finally got a station a few months back now. Running 2.49 for b20 soy. B2 is 2.43. I might put b20 in due to I have to register this month and compair last years emissions to this years....for curiousity sake.

 

Mesdagh, that was where the list I posted was from, just saved him the trouble

 

I just checked price of biodiesel in Bellevue WA and they want $4.33 a gallon!

 

biodiesel actually makes NOx emissions worse and makes the Hydrocarbon emissions better.

The problem lies in that NOx is currenty what is becoming more difficult to contain. If biodiesel makes it harder, that can be a source of "resistance" to endorsing/spreading its use.

You can bet I would buy it though. I'd take a little more NOx emissions to give the finger to OPEC anyday.

Great link to that map of biodiesel stations.

I also agree that there is alot of mis-information out there relative to biodiesel.

Was the $4.33/gallon for B100 (100% biodiesel)? Without the tax break (cause its not blended), I could see that price actually being in-line with expectations.

You should ask and if it is B100, tell them to get the fuel mixed with regular petroleum diesel (to at least B20).

 

I want to learn, please explain.
In a brief laymans term what is the differnece between biodiesel and new pure (unused) vegetable oil? I know WVO is just used vegetable oil and it needs to be filtered before using.

I have 36 gallons of unused vegetable oil laying around and I asked before and it was stated that I could use it in low concentrations (up to 5%) but I was just wondering what the difference is between biodiesel and VO.
Thanks.

 

B100 in Boulder, CO is 2.89. It's cheaper in Denver. $4.33 is a rip off !!

 

Well in the lovely state of Connecitcut there is currently only two places that I've found that have Bio. One is only about 15 minutes from my house but they only have B100 in 5 gallon buckets for $25.00 each! The other is about 45 minutes away but is not a public pump. So as usual the good OLD state of CT is behind in the times..... I sure hope they catch up soon. If anyone knows of someplace thats not listed on the biodiesel web site, let me know.

P.S. There is a Bio-diesel Co-op about 15 minutes from here as well, but its only B100 and you need to get at least 25 gallons at a time... and I just don't use it fast enough and don't have any place to store the 5 continers it would take.


Mike

 

I was going to say a few things but I thought that one of my sorces would be better.
[ I need to figure out and then remeber how to post web sites as links] most of the
Biodiesel-Biofuels Researchreseach and testing was with our eng.s http://web.missouri.edu/~pavt0689/biofuel.html

 

I tried too but couldn't get it to work.

 

Fixed link.

 

The difference between bio-diesel and vegetable oil is quite simple, I think.

The main thing with vegetable oil is that you have to start and stop the engine with diesel. It's after the engine is running that you switch to vegetable oil, and before you shutdown that you switch back to diesel. There are kits that you would have to install to make this switch possible. I'm not sure what sort of power difference you would see between VO and #2, though. You don't have to do that with any grade biodiesel. Just put it in the tank and go.

Biodiesel, in high enough concentrations, is hard on some fuel system components. I've used B20 in my truck without issue, and if I'm in need of fuel when I'm around the station I'll run it again. Biodiesel is supposed to have a bit less potential energy than #2, but not so much that you'd notice in real world terms. I never noticed a difference in performance or mileage when I ran biodiesel.

Here is a link to what Cummins says about Biodiesel in a recent newsletter they sent out.

 

I would highly advise avoiding running SVO in a 3rd gen. Plenty of reports show HPCR and SVO do not mesh well Bio and SVO/WVO are far different. Bio started as VO and has gone thru a transesterification reaction - which causes the glycerins and impurities to fall out of the suspension and settle to the bottom.

As mentioned above, with SVO systems like greasel you have to start and warm the engine on diesel and flush the lines out before shut down. Biodiesel you run just like any other diesel, typically in a blend though.

I ran b100 for 35,000 miles in my 2002 VW TDI without a single issue.