Axle hopping
#17
It sounds to me like driveline shudder. Does it happen as you take off even under light acceleration? Then goes away at about 5-10 mph? If so that shudder and I would just learn to live with it. It's not a big deal, and when loaded it will probably go away.
If it only happen when launching hard or when accelerating in intermittent traction conditions its probably axle wrap causing wheel hop. If this is the case a well made and designed set of traction bars will quell that.
Hope this helps.
If it only happen when launching hard or when accelerating in intermittent traction conditions its probably axle wrap causing wheel hop. If this is the case a well made and designed set of traction bars will quell that.
Hope this helps.
#18
When I am pulling my trailer in the sand it hops quite a bit until I drop the air pressure in my tires down to 20psi-f,25psi-r. I put the fronts down a little more because I know that cummins motor will give me plenty of traction up front. After that no wheel hop at all, you just either get stuck or you motor right through it.
#19
We discussed this at length some time back.
I found rancho 9000 cranked up to #9 with a few hunderd pounds in the rear (bilsteins on front) and rear tires as low as you can go. Helps alot.
Just changing the shock metering has a noticeable effect.
I initally assumed it was anti spin causing the problem, its not, although the slight shudder as you make a corner is the anti spin jacking the rear somewhat.
I have driven, with the dealer assistance, various trucks, with and w/o, anti-spin, diesels, hemi, 1500, 2500 etc through the same conditions. The dodge is definitely prone to this. Most suspect the soft inital spring ride the buyers demand, to get this ride, long leafs proved this but will flex easily. This contributes to wheel-hop. Those D/E rated tires contribute greatly, very stiff sidewalls, won't absord any twist from the axle. The vehicles with lower rated tires didn't seem to hop as much.
IMO, ladder bars are the answer, I didn't want to surfrace my ride that much.
If you decide to buy those lift bars other than true ladder bars. Save your money unless you want to install them for additional weight carring cababilites. Think about it, you can accomplish the very same thing by clamping your ride leafs (mains) to the overloads (shorter ones). The same effect as adding hundereds of pounds to collapse your overrides!!!!
We have not tested with air ride bags. Possibility, this would be an effective solution, as it may give enough support to keep the spring from warping and releasing quickly. Would be a relativetly inexpenisve way to help the situation if it worked.
PS, the testing was done in deep snow (6" to 2 ft) and soft sand (2 to 6").
I found rancho 9000 cranked up to #9 with a few hunderd pounds in the rear (bilsteins on front) and rear tires as low as you can go. Helps alot.
Just changing the shock metering has a noticeable effect.
I initally assumed it was anti spin causing the problem, its not, although the slight shudder as you make a corner is the anti spin jacking the rear somewhat.
I have driven, with the dealer assistance, various trucks, with and w/o, anti-spin, diesels, hemi, 1500, 2500 etc through the same conditions. The dodge is definitely prone to this. Most suspect the soft inital spring ride the buyers demand, to get this ride, long leafs proved this but will flex easily. This contributes to wheel-hop. Those D/E rated tires contribute greatly, very stiff sidewalls, won't absord any twist from the axle. The vehicles with lower rated tires didn't seem to hop as much.
IMO, ladder bars are the answer, I didn't want to surfrace my ride that much.
If you decide to buy those lift bars other than true ladder bars. Save your money unless you want to install them for additional weight carring cababilites. Think about it, you can accomplish the very same thing by clamping your ride leafs (mains) to the overloads (shorter ones). The same effect as adding hundereds of pounds to collapse your overrides!!!!
We have not tested with air ride bags. Possibility, this would be an effective solution, as it may give enough support to keep the spring from warping and releasing quickly. Would be a relativetly inexpenisve way to help the situation if it worked.
PS, the testing was done in deep snow (6" to 2 ft) and soft sand (2 to 6").
#20
The airbags didn't make a difference in wheel-hop on the '05... due to their mounting position, they just don't have much effect on the tendency of the long 3rd gen leaf pack to deform under the CTD's torque output.
The traction bars I fabricated made a huge difference, though:
Zero wheel-hop, whether towing or racing - even with 2000 RPM launches - and the cornering of the heavy service truck improved as well!
The traction bars I fabricated made a huge difference, though:
Zero wheel-hop, whether towing or racing - even with 2000 RPM launches - and the cornering of the heavy service truck improved as well!
#22
It sounds to me like driveline shudder. Does it happen as you take off even under light acceleration? Then goes away at about 5-10 mph? If so that shudder and I would just learn to live with it. It's not a big deal, and when loaded it will probably go away.
If it only happen when launching hard or when accelerating in intermittent traction conditions its probably axle wrap causing wheel hop. If this is the case a well made and designed set of traction bars will quell that.
Hope this helps.
If it only happen when launching hard or when accelerating in intermittent traction conditions its probably axle wrap causing wheel hop. If this is the case a well made and designed set of traction bars will quell that.
Hope this helps.
#27
Every 4x4 I have ever had has done that in sand, are you running in 4x4 if so you just need more weight back there.
#28
The airbags didn't make a difference in wheel-hop on the '05... due to their mounting position, they just don't have much effect on the tendency of the long 3rd gen leaf pack to deform under the CTD's torque output.
The traction bars I fabricated made a huge difference, though:
Zero wheel-hop, whether towing or racing - even with 2000 RPM launches - and the cornering of the heavy service truck improved as well!
The traction bars I fabricated made a huge difference, though:
Zero wheel-hop, whether towing or racing - even with 2000 RPM launches - and the cornering of the heavy service truck improved as well!
Those pics are fake
Let us know when you get your site up and running I'm thinking I'll be signing my paychecks over to you "Is there anything you dont make?
#29
#30
JC Whitney sells some traction bars made by Tuff Country for around $150.00. They should work on a 2500 but would not work on my 3500 due to the overload springs. I modified them to work on my truck and the ride got much worse. My truck bounces all over the road when I hit a bump so I think I will end up with a set of the GDP ladder bars one day.......