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Old 03-16-2004, 11:05 AM
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555 vs 600 & door lock ?

I was at the dealer last night to get a new insturment panel installed, Star Electronics the manufacturer of our trucks computers said that was the fix for the problem I'm having... They were wrong. The rear doors stay locked when I stop driving and have to be manually unlocked to get out back there. The dealer and I have tried everything in the owners manual, and he has tried to change the option with the diagnostics computer they plug in under the dash and it just WONT let you enable that feature! Any idea's out there?
While at the dealer I tried out a standard cab 2500, 4X4, 600 with a 4.10 LS.... DOG!!! If that thing is making more power than my truck its loosing all that and more between the crank and the rear wheels somplace!!! that truck probably has a 1 ton weight advantage over mine and was still a joke. No unusual clatter like I've heard mentioned, but it was surely no quieter than my truck.
Also noticed that it did have the EXACT same air box my truck did (some have said the new ones were diff.), the passage to the grill that allowed for cool air to come in around the box and turbo is now blocked off by a rubber floppy flap. and the hood liner was on it (an SLT) though even the service guy pointed out my truck was very noticably quieter.

MORE HP, AND TORQUE ON THE NEW MOTORS??? NOT!!!
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I have the same door lock/unlock problem. I have not let it bother me to much. I just hit the door lock when someone in the back wants out.
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Have you tried another dealer? It's got to be user technique or else the controller needs to be replaced. How could it be anything else? Nat
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I noticed there are child safety locks on rear doors could yours be in the on position thus necessitating the driver to unlock doors?
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I've driven both and there is no way that your 555 dually would be faster (stock) than a standard cab 600 2500. Maybe the floormat was blocking the throttle or something, but a little common sense is prudent.
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i just took my 2001 in to have the door locks reconfigured so they would not "lock" unless i locked them. didn't even take it into the shop, service manager came out pluged his computer into my dash and presto ! all is well!
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I dont think the door lock thing is any big deal at all, even told the dealer so. but they were willing to try to fix the problem for me, so COOL.
I watched the service guy go though all the menu's and right up to the one that 1. enables, and 2. disables the rolling lock feature. He was able to change any setting he wanted, except that one. We had both check the child locks in back as well, but because the DRB III (hand held computer thing) wasnt even able to change the feature we are under the impression its electrical. Really cool part of all this is when they ordered the new insturment pnl I had 4335 miles, when they replaced it I had 5445, so 1110 miles disapeared off my truck!
I just called the dealer to see if they had any new info. from Star, they told me that because I have a manual tranny the computer isnt functioning right because it doesnt see the park switch engaged when its suposed to... OK, so why do the front doors work but not the back??? NO ANSWERS...
I'm going to just take it in and have them dissable the "rolling lock" feature altogether for the time being (again, its no big deal)
All the other features work perfectly normal and I'm cool with that, just thought somebody may have gotten a resolution to this.

bigblock2stroke,
I didnt time the trucks or anything, just driveing them both and jumping on the 600 a few times to see what she had... "YEAH RIGHT!" was the first thing I said a few seconds after mashing the go pedal the first time, after that it was "come on baby, what are you waiting for? and finally, what a waste".
Sorry man, that things a pig. who knows, could be a whole different story with 10,000lbs behind it!!!
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I won't call it a dog (because I have one) but I believe that there is a little more power to the ground on the 555. I don't have an explanation for this but I would like to see both lined up and see what happens. I have driven both and the 555 has more get up and go.
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I'll be first to admit my trucks not 100% stock, I took out the baffle between the filter and turbo, & did the "ram air" mod. mentioned in another string on this site, $14 invested, HUGE diffrence in the truck! But 20 HP, and 45 ft. lbs. torque? I dont believe that.
Maybe somthing was wrong with the truck I tried or somthing, I'm going back in next Monday night to have the disable the "rolling door lock" feature, I'll see if I can try out a 1 ton quad cab 600 and see how she runs.

BTW, I recommend the 2 mod.'s I mentioned to EVERYONE with a gen. 3 truck!!!
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Can you tell me exactly what your truck is doing with the doors not unlocking when you stop? I have a 03 QC SLT and I have to hit the unlock button to unlock the rear doors, are you saying they should automatically unlock when you stop and shut off? I haven't been following your unlock problem, just wondering.

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Can you tell me exactly what your truck is doing with the doors not unlocking when you stop? I have a 03 QC SLT and I have to hit the unlock button to unlock the rear doors, are you saying they should automatically unlock when you stop and shut off? I haven't been following your unlock problem, just wondering.

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I'm wondering this too because if that's the case, I've never heard of such a thing.
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After driving when you stop the front doors will unlock and open with the pull of the door handle, my daughter who rides in back has to pull up on the lock button, THEN the door handle will work so she can get out, OR I can press the electric lock button and unlock all the doors. I asked the dealer if it should be like this because a child saftey thing or somthing and they've all said. "Nope, all the doors should work like your front ones do."
I'm dont really care about it that much, just a little nusance to Nicole so I'm going to have them disable the "rolling lock" altogether.
I didnt think to mention to the service guys that when I stop, turn off the lights, take out the key and go to get out the "reminder" chime sounds for like 10 seconds after the lights have been turned off and the keys out... so whats it reminding me of????
Trucks just got Gremlins living in it or somthing. again this stuff is really trivial.
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BDude555 wrote; I didnt think to mention to the service guys that when I stop, turn off the lights, take out the key and go to get out the "reminder" chime sounds for like 10 seconds after the lights have been turned off and the keys out... so whats it reminding me of????

After the key is removed and the door is open, and the dinging is still happening, try turning the ignition switch (without inserting the key) clockwise/counterclockwise to see if that stops the dinging. Mine has that much play in the switch and I can easily duplicate that problem. Nat
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This is from the 2004 shop manual. It's different than what I found in the owner's manual. I didn't know the overhead console could do the programming. I haven't tested this yet either but here ya go.........


EVIC PROGRAMMING MODE
Some vehicles are equipped with a Electronic Vehicle
Information Center (EVIC) equipped overhead
console. The Electronic Vehicle Information Center
(EVIC) provides the vehicle operator with a user
interface, which allows the selection of several
optional customer programmable electronic features
to suit individual preferences. The EVIC must be
placed into its programming mode in order to view or
change the programmable features. To enter theEVIC programming mode and to view or change the
selected programmable features options, proceed as
follows:
(1) Turn the ignition switch to the On position.
(2) Momentarily depress and release the Menu
push button to step through the programmable features
list. Each programmable feature and its currently
selected option will appear on the EVIC
display in the sequence shown in the Programmable
Features list that follows.
(3) Momentarily depress and release the Step push
button to step through the available options for the
programmable feature being displayed.
(4) The option that last appears in the display
with a programmable feature before exiting the programming
mode, becomes the newly selected programmable
feature option.
(5) The EVIC exits the programming mode and
returns to its normal operating mode when the C/T
push button is depressed or when the end of the programmable
features menu list is reached, whichever
occurs first.
PROGRAMMABLE FEATURES
² LANGUAGE? - The options include English,
Francaise, Deutsch, Italiana, or Espanol. The default
is English. All EVIC display nomenclature, including
the trip computer functions, warning messages and
the programmable features appear in the selected
language.
² DISPLAY U.S. OR METRIC? - The options
include U.S. and M. The default is U.S. This feature
toggles the trip computer temperature, fuel economy
and odometer display readings between U.S. and
metric units of measure.
² SERVICE INTV. = - The options include from
3200 to 12000 kilometers in 800 kilometer increments
(2000 to 6000 miles in 500 mile increments).
The default is 12000 kilometers (6000 miles). The
selected distance becomes the interval at which the
Perform Service warning message will be displayed
by the EVIC. If a new distance is selected, a second
programmable feature appears, RESET SERVICE
DISTANCE? - The options include No and Yes. The
default is Yes. When Yes is selected, the accumulated
distance since the last previous Perform Service
warning message will be reset to zero because the
service interval has been changed. When No is
selected, the distance until the next Perform Service
warning message is reduced by the accumulated distance
since the last previous message.
² AUTO DOOR LOCKS? - The options include
Yes and No. The default is Yes. When Yes is selected,
all doors lock automatically when vehicle speed
reaches 25 kilometers-per-hour (15 miles-per-hour). If
YES is selected, a second programmable feature
appears, AUTO UNLOCK ON EXIT? - The options
again include Yes and No. The default is No. When
Yes is selected, following each Auto Door Lock event
all doors will automatically unlock when the driver
door is opened, if the vehicle is stopped and the
transmission gear selector is in Park or Neutral. The
Auto Door Unlock event will only occur once following
each Auto Door Lock event.
² REMOTE UNLOCK - The options include
Driver Door 1st and All Doors. The default is Driver
Door 1st. When Diver Door 1st is selected, only the
driver door unlocks when the Unlock button of the
Remote Keyless Entry (RKE) transmitter is
depressed once. The Unlock button of the RKE transmitter
must be depressed twice to unlock all doors.
When All Doors is selected, all doors unlock when the
Unlock button of the RKE transmitter is depressed
once.
² SOUND HORN ON LOCK? - The options
include On and Off. The default is No. When Yes is
selected, a short horn chirp will provide an audible
confirmation when the RKE receiver recognizes a
valid Lock signal from an RKE transmitter. When No
is selected, no horn chirp will occur with the RKE
Lock event. This feature may be selected independent
of the FLASH LIGHTS WITH LOCKS? programmable
feature.
² FLASH LIGHTS WITH LOCKS? - The options
include Yes and No. The default is Yes. When Yes is
selected, a single flash of the hazard warning lamps
will provide an optical confirmation when the RKE
receiver recognizes a valid Lock signal from an RKE
transmitter, and two flashes of the same lamps will
occur when the RKE receiver recognizes a valid
Unlock signal from an RKE transmitter. When No is
selected, no lamp flash will occur with the RKE Lock
or Unlock event. This feature may be selected independent
of the SOUND HORN ON LOCK? programmable
feature.
² HEADLAMP DELAY = - The options include
Off, 30 Sec, 60 Sec, and 90 Sec. The default is 90 Sec.
When a time interval is selected, the headlamps will
remain on for that length of time when the headlamps
are turned off after the ignition is turned off,
or if the Auto mode is selected on vehicles with the
Auto Headlamps option. When Off is selected, the
headlamp delay feature is disabled.
² TRAIN REMOTE - When this feature is
selected the driver can choose to train up to four
remote keyless entry transmitters. The options
include Yes and No. The default is No. When Yes is
selected and the MENU button is pressed the EVIC
will display “PRESS REMOTE LOCK & UNLOCK
THEN PRESS UNLOCK”, followed by a chime to
indicate the training sequence can commence. You
have approximately 30 seconds to train up to four
transmitters, after each transmitter is trained a
chime will sound indicating that the training was
successful. If remote link to memory is “YES” , the
first transmitter trained will be associated with
memory setting 1 and the second transmitter trained
will be associated with memory setting 2. Additional
transmitters will not be associated with a memory
setting. When you have finished training the transmitters,
press the menu button again and the EVIC
will display “TRAIN DONE “X” TRAINED. If no
transmitters are trained within approximately 30
seconds the EVIC will display “TRAIN TIMEOUT”.
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Originally posted by BDude555
After driving when you stop the front doors will unlock and open with the pull of the door handle, my daughter who rides in back has to pull up on the lock button, THEN the door handle will work so she can get out, OR I can press the electric lock button and unlock all the doors. I asked the dealer if it should be like this because a child saftey thing or somthing and they've all said. "Nope, all the doors should work like your front ones do."
I'm dont really care about it that much, just a little nusance to Nicole so I'm going to have them disable the "rolling lock" altogether.
I didnt think to mention to the service guys that when I stop, turn off the lights, take out the key and go to get out the "reminder" chime sounds for like 10 seconds after the lights have been turned off and the keys out... so whats it reminding me of????
Trucks just got Gremlins living in it or somthing. again this stuff is really trivial.
Ok, I was wondering about that. I've never seen doors operate as you're desiring here, but maybe they do it. I personally would never put my locks that way for safety reasons. What if the child makes a mistake and the door opens on her while you're on the highway?


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