i figured that out, thanks!

 

First off, what "myth" did I spread? I stated that I personally have had issues, and have given specifics as to what happened. You start to attack like you have a vested interest, and never covered that??

The one that ballooned was the HP version of the 8A, I can't remember the exact part number if that would make you happy I will find it, suffice to say it was two to three times the cost of the "basic" 8A. Building engines does not make me an expert, but I certainly understand the inner workings of my engine and I DO understand how a filter is supposed to work. What is very irritating is to have FRAM say that my oil pressure mysteriously spiked to over 300 PSI, which is absurd, it was just their way of CYA. So what makes you this great filter expert? Do you work for Honeywell/Fram???? So the truth might come out now??? Just an FYI, I work with filters of many different kinds on a daily basis, some of them are over 700.00. So no I'm still not an expert, but do understand----and you?

 

I don't recall the filter numbers but they were all matched to each other.

I do remember in 2004 Calling FRAM myself and talking with the tech guys about their filters for my 2003 Dodge Diesel. (At the time only the OEM part was availible for the tranny filter).
I was told to not use their air filter (they were being collasped) they had an update comming not sure when relase date would be. Was also told to not use their oil filter on my truck as they were recalling numerous lot numbers do to defective internals. Resulting in some catostrophic failures on the Cummins Engines. Their fuel filters did not have a water seperation rating at the time either.

 

Ok you are right - ALL FRAM filters are BAD. Never buy ANY FRAM filter for anything EVER. All WIX Filters are GOOD. In fact, ANY filter EXCEPT FRAM is GOOD.

You just don't get it, do you? You can't generalize that all FRAM filters are bad. Many of their filters are excellent. But you can continue spreading the myth that ALL FRAM FILTERS ARE BAD, because you got a bad one once, or heard about somebody who did , or saw some rigged demonstration, or read about it on an Internet forum, yada, yada, yada.

I used FRAM filters exclusively for 20 years (the cheapest I could find) and NEVER had a problem. I only use Wix now because I can get them for even less at Filter1.com, and I believe they are better. Not that FRAM is BAD.

And OBTW, as far as your particular experience goes McMopar, based on the anecdotal evidence (the fact the YOU built the engine) the likelihood that something YOU did caused a pressure spike seems more believeable to me than the the likelihood an HP8A failed under normal conditions. Sorry, JMHO.

Disclaimer: I make no representation as to the truth or quality of the information I provide, except that it comes from my own personal experience and thinking for myself. Try it yourself sometime - believe it, or not.

 

sheesh, I see about 50% of these posts getting deleted in short order, what was the topic again?

 

... I beleive it was auto tranny filters. Specifically the 48RE.
FWIW - DTT recommends the earlier filters used in the 1st Gens.... 97 I believe. Apparently it's thicker, if memory serves.
But that's for the 47RE. Not sure what they do for the 48RE? Might be worth a phone call to find out.
I buy filters and Mag Hy-Tec pan gaskets from DTT...three at a time to spread out shipping. Not cheapest way to go... but neither is my tranny!

RJ

 

Mag Hy-Tec also recommends the earlier filters for the 48RE as well.

 

That is intresting that the earlier filters are recommended. The 47re filter is a straight bolt on to the 48re?

Ace you obviously have your opinions and others have theirs. I have run FRAM filters myself on everthing gas I ever owned or did an oil change on.
I actually have a FRAM airfilter in my Dodge right now.
Your attitude shows that your trying to get into a confrontation and this is not the spot to do this.
If you want to state your side that you have been using FRAM filters for xxxx number of years sucessfuuly then do so. You don't have to use insulting wording to get that point across. I understand where you are comming from. But your point is pretty mout if you are explaining it the way you are.

BTW FleetGuard Recalled a number of filters in late 04 I think. It was for the Dodge Diesels because the filters were backing off due to a improper crimp seal of the metal surfaces between the body and the sealing face portion. Causing it to vibrate loose then fall off causing a sudden loss of oil.

As you can see not every manufacturer is perfect all the time.

cheers all.

 

I haven't used FRAM for about the last 8 years because lately there's been better out there for the same money or less. Good old capitalistic competition at work! I don't bash FRAM because it seems to be the popular thing to do either. And I don't come on here and flat out tell people they are ....

I state my piece, that's all. Glad to see you agree with me!

If anybody's got the wrong attitude on this, it's McMopar and the FRAM haters, JMHO.

 

Aint this great,,,,, U been thread-jacked over a filter brand war!!!!!

 

I'm characterizing it more as an anti-Internet myth war!

 

I would say it was you, and I can rightfully not like them after my experiences!! More than one! Now I'm done.

 

Go reread my first post, I simply stated what had happened to me, you took it from there!! I NEVER even bashed them!!

 

IIRC Dodge had a TSB out about Fram oil filters coming apart and causing engine damage.

 

Yeah, I re-read it and I'm an arrogant SOB, too. WHAT - EVER!