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Old 05-10-2007 | 11:56 AM
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DOT 5 Brake fluid?

Can I use DOT 5 brake fluid in my 97 Ram? Anyone tried it? I don't drive my truck that much and thought DOT 5 woudl be better for a vehicle that sees occasional use. Anyone tried it? Comments?
Old 05-10-2007 | 02:35 PM
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I believe DOT 5 brake fluid is silicone based, so what that means is that you have to purge out, and completely flush out all of the old DOT 3/4 fluid before you put the DOT 5 in. DOT 5 fluid is better because it does not absorb moisture like DOT 3/4 does, so all the hydraulic stuff should last longer. But you do have to flush out the old fluid, since they don't like each other too well.
Old 05-10-2007 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DL1221
I believe DOT 5 brake fluid is silicone based, so what that means is that you have to purge out, and completely flush out all of the old DOT 3/4 fluid before you put the DOT 5 in. DOT 5 fluid is better because it does not absorb moisture like DOT 3/4 does, so all the hydraulic stuff should last longer. But you do have to flush out the old fluid, since they don't like each other too well.
Don't they also say, that because DOT 5 won't absorb water, the water will go to the lowest points in the system and just sit there instead?
Old 05-10-2007 | 11:30 PM
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Not sure what happens to the moisture, but DOT 5 is definitely better than DOT 3/4. If I was rebuilding a vehicle from the bottom up, I would definitely use it. But for these trucks that have had DOT 3/4 fluid all of their life, I think its probably just as effective to flush the system every year, or every other year, with fresh DOT 3/4. That's what is generally recommended as the best preventive maintenance.
Old 05-10-2007 | 11:36 PM
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I know squat about you guys trucks but I couldn't run it in my heap as the bottles say not to use it in ABS systems.
Silicone Brake Fluids
In years past, all brake fluids were glycol. Then D.O.T. 5, a silicone fluid having a higher temperature rating, emerged, initially to meet the higher boiling point requirements of racing use. (Race car brake systems include oil-cooler-like heat exchangers and ceramic pads.) Silicone fluid was able to withstand the most heat of any brake fluid, so it earned a reputation as a racing brake fluid. However, silicone brake fluid has properties very different from glycol fluid, and has its own pros and cons. On the advantage side, silicone fluid will not harm paint or plastic, and does not aggressively attract additional moisture as glycol fluid does. On the disadvantage side however, silicone fluid aerates easily. Harley-Davison, one of the sole current OEM users of silicone fluid, warns buyers to let the fluid sit at least an hour before using it. The trip home in the saddlebag is enough to aerate silicone brake fluid until it looks like a freshly poured soft drink. Silicone fluid is also slightly more compressible than glycol fluid, does not change color to tip the user to its moisture content, and worst of all, neither accepts or disperses moisture, making systems using it more corrosion prone, and requiring much more frequent fluid changes. Silicone brake fluid also lacks glycol fluid's naturally occuring lubricity, making it incompatible with the mechanical valving in some antilock braking systems
As found here ~ http://www.motorcycleproject.com/mot...rakefluid.html

Why don't the vehicle manufacturers simply switch to DOT 5 brake fluid that is silicone-based and repels moisture? One reason is that silicone brake fluid is very expensive compared to glycol-based fluids. Another is that silicone fluid contains more dissolved air and aerates more easily when pumped rapidly through small orifices that can increase pedal travel and reduce pedal firmness (a spongy pedal). Because of this, most vehicle manufacturers warn against using DOT 5 brake fluid in any vehicle equipped with ABS.
As found here ~ http://www.babcox.com/editorial/bf/bf40142.htm


Just do a Google for DOT5.
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