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Old 11-10-2009, 10:59 AM
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Runs too cold.

This is probably a no brainer ..but.... do these trucks tend to run cold ?

I have a '99, 4X4.

When I run my truck in cold weather, going downhill on a long grade , no throttle, the coolant temeprature pegs out LOW. Cold.

Is this normal or do I have a stuck thermostat ?

(I am STILL impressed with the massive cooling system in these trucks.)

Thanks in advance for the input.

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Old 11-10-2009, 11:14 AM
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Do you have your radiator blocked off? Yes, these trucks run cold when not worked. When I had my 2000, I ended up replacing the thermostat. If you do that, only buy a original Cummins part, expensive but they work.
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you said 99 but below says 98.5. but anyway. if you have never replaced the thermostat or dont know if it has I would for safe measure. normally there is a 180 or 190 degree one. but if your going up and down I-5 up by like shasta with cold temps I can see a little colder but shouldnt be moving the needle drastic. check with the thermostat and go from there.
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Yea, its a 98.5, just rounding it off a bit. And you are right , Shasta / Trinity area.
My radiator isnt blocked off. This thing just should not peg out low , yep its probably stuck open a bit. I will go with Cummins a part.

Out of curiosity, what is the down side of of it running cold other than my cab heater puting out cold air ; ) Any performance issues ? I have seen big-rigs with their radiators covered so there must be perf problems when they are too cold ?
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Diesel engines are more efficient when warmed up to the proper temp. Everything is seated properly and the fuel/air is being compressed and burned properly. It's also easier on parts to have the engine all warm and cozy.
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When coasting downhill you are burning NO fuelat all. The engine is just pumping air through. So, it has to cool down some.
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yes true. at no throttle coasting theres no fuel injected at all. but with low cylinder temp when you do inject fuel it is not a complete burn you will eventually glaze the cylinder wall. which will be bad. burning oil, loss of compression.......you just dont want that.
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I just ordered a new 'stat' from Cummins West. (180'F)

Dodge dealer wanted $72, ???????? Thanks but no thanks Dodge.

Cummins sold it to me for $33, shipped to my house.

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This thread caught my eye. Mine's always run cold like that. I replaced the tstat and it performs the same. Either mine just runs cold or the sending unit or gauge is off.

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so whats a good temp? mine runs about 160
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190-200 on my truck is normal.
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put a 180 in mine. Found that the old stat had one side of the 'perch' that holds the spring, cracked in half . Holds solid at 180 now. It does seem to run more efficiently now.
By the way, I just turned 300K miles on the truck today ; )
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ok im scared now... my truck usually runs just above the 145 mark all the time. is this bad?????
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Originally Posted by jrv15
ok im scared now... my truck usually runs just above the 145 mark all the time. is this bad?????
throw a new thermostat in and all should be golden, usually if they run cols the thermostats opens too soon, engine is more efficent when up in the 180-190 range. mine runs 190+ all the time except in extreme cold temps does it cool down,
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ok im scared now... my truck usually runs just above the 145 mark all the time. is this bad?????
3 possibilities come to mind:

1- you are driving short trips and the engine does not have time to warm up.

2- If the radiator is not blocked off, it will take longer for the engine to warm up (do this when it gets cold and stays cold outside)

3- you might have possible thermostat and sensor issues

1 and 2 can affect each other. Short trips, cold air, and an open radiator will definitely make the engine take a lot longer to warm up.

Try this, drive your truck around for about a 1/2 hour and see if it comes up to temperature. Even when it is 40ºF outside, my truck will come up to full temperature with an open radiator (takes a little longer but it will).

If it still does not warm up then start looking into possible thermostat issues.

If you have never blocked off the radiator, it's pretty easy. I personally use a large sheet of cardboard, and slide it in between the intercooler and radiator. Works good, and I've been able to use the same piece of cardboard for 2 years now.

Good luck, and let us know what you find.


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