not fuel to the banjo bolt.
12-31-2005, 06:38 PM
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not fuel to the banjo bolt.
HELP!!!! I changed my fuel filter today....loosened the rear banjo bolt and not fuel???? I can here the transfer pump run for its 20 seconds and no fuel each time? Any ideas, yes there is fuel in the tank. Thanks
12-31-2005, 06:44 PM
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Congratulations....
You have just joined the "I have a dead Lift Pump" club.
This is why it is so important to have a full time fuel pressure gauge on the 24 valve VP44 equiped trucks.
Do NOT buy a replacement from the Dodge dealer as they want $300+ for the same pump yuou can buy from Cummins for ~$150.
They can be had for ~$140 on the internet and many are using the Carter replacement pumps from NAPA.
You have just joined the "I have a dead Lift Pump" club.
This is why it is so important to have a full time fuel pressure gauge on the 24 valve VP44 equiped trucks.
Do NOT buy a replacement from the Dodge dealer as they want $300+ for the same pump yuou can buy from Cummins for ~$150.
They can be had for ~$140 on the internet and many are using the Carter replacement pumps from NAPA.
12-31-2005, 06:53 PM
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It has probably been dead for some time, you just noticed it when the fuel system wouldn't prime.
The Injection Pump CAN pull fuel enough to run the engine as long as there is no air introduced into the system to lose prime.
The problem is that the lift pump supplies excess fuel to the injection pump to be used to cool the pump and is then returned to the tank.
The excess heat resulting from the lack of cooling may cause an early demise of the VP44 Injection Pump.
The Injection Pump CAN pull fuel enough to run the engine as long as there is no air introduced into the system to lose prime.
The problem is that the lift pump supplies excess fuel to the injection pump to be used to cool the pump and is then returned to the tank.
The excess heat resulting from the lack of cooling may cause an early demise of the VP44 Injection Pump.
12-31-2005, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by flinn101
why would it have just quit sitting in my driveway? Any other ideas?
You are VERY lucky to have caught the problem by changing your filter and not having the pump work. VERY lucky you didn't kill your $1,600 injection pump. You won't be as lucky the second time. Get a FP guage.
12-31-2005, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by flinn101
would that explain poor fuel mileage...which transfer pump would you buy....are they hard to install? thanks
The pumps are easy to install. Take off the fuel filter canister and the pump is right there. Don't loose the rubber insert washers.
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12-31-2005, 07:00 PM
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I purchased mine from www.hoeslidiesel.com for ~$140.
The NAPA one, I've heard is $90.
The 1st time you do one will take about an hour or so....you'll get faster on the second one......
Get the pump and 4 sealing washers.
If your truck is a 98.5 or a '99 you'll also need the "pigtail harness"
The NAPA one, I've heard is $90.
The 1st time you do one will take about an hour or so....you'll get faster on the second one......
Get the pump and 4 sealing washers.
If your truck is a 98.5 or a '99 you'll also need the "pigtail harness"
12-31-2005, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Shovelhead
I purchased mine from www.hoeslidiesel.com for ~$140.
The NAPA one, I've heard is $90.
The 1st time you do one will take about an hour or so....you'll get faster on the second one......
Get the pump and 4 sealing washers.
If your truck is a 98.5 or a '99 you'll also need the "pigtail harness"
The NAPA one, I've heard is $90.
The 1st time you do one will take about an hour or so....you'll get faster on the second one......
Get the pump and 4 sealing washers.
If your truck is a 98.5 or a '99 you'll also need the "pigtail harness"
12-31-2005, 07:05 PM
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It is a 99, Pigtail come with a new pump....do you know any parts stores open on NY's eve?? I guess I'll be here another day or so...any last words of wisdom on changing the pump?
12-31-2005, 07:30 PM
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Two banjo bolts, three mounting bolts.
It's pretty basic, just a little hard to get to.
Remove the bolts holding the filter canister and lay it to the side to get more room to work.
Lay a blanket over the fender to keep from scratching the paint, and a drip pan under to keep the fuel spill to a minimum.
Cummins numbers are :
3990082 for the "kit" (pump & harness)
3963983 for the sealing washers (4 are needed)
It's pretty basic, just a little hard to get to.
Remove the bolts holding the filter canister and lay it to the side to get more room to work.
Lay a blanket over the fender to keep from scratching the paint, and a drip pan under to keep the fuel spill to a minimum.
Cummins numbers are :
3990082 for the "kit" (pump & harness)
3963983 for the sealing washers (4 are needed)
01-01-2006, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Geico266
I can change mine is 40 mins. lol
