LSD or no LSD
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I'm getting ready to change my diff and transfer case fluids over to synthetic so I have been reading as many threads as I can with people's opinions on what type of fluids and whether a friction modifier is necessary or not. Which brings me to my question... I don't think my truck has a LSD and that surprises me. (Dana 70 rear) I even pulled out my original window sticker and it makes no mention anywhere of a LSD. How do I confirm that this is correct? Is there a code in the VIN? A tell-tale difference in the diff? I want to use a friction modifier if I have a LSD, but don't want to waste my time if I don't.
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[quote author=Shovelhead link=board=4;threadid=17909;start=#msg167605 date=1059919512]
I refilled mine with Amsoil synthetic on my last change.
Mine has the LSD.
No modifier needed.![Wink](https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
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The modifier, with synthetics is RARELY the issue - what IS the issue, is whether or not the limited-slip function still works or not - many don't with synthetics, and owners blithely ASSUME all is well just because they don't get any differential "chattering", until they get into a situation where the LSD is actually needed, then it's
surprise surprise surprise.....
Try putting ONE rear wheel on a stretch of slippery surface, the other on a solid and dry surface, and try a moderately quick takeoff - THEN get back to us on how well the synthetic and your LSD is working - the fact it doesn't chatter is only HALF the story...
;D ;D
I refilled mine with Amsoil synthetic on my last change.
Mine has the LSD.
No modifier needed.
![Wink](https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Ed
[/quote]
The modifier, with synthetics is RARELY the issue - what IS the issue, is whether or not the limited-slip function still works or not - many don't with synthetics, and owners blithely ASSUME all is well just because they don't get any differential "chattering", until they get into a situation where the LSD is actually needed, then it's
surprise surprise surprise.....
Try putting ONE rear wheel on a stretch of slippery surface, the other on a solid and dry surface, and try a moderately quick takeoff - THEN get back to us on how well the synthetic and your LSD is working - the fact it doesn't chatter is only HALF the story...
![Wink](https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
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The diff should be tagged and in the glove box there should be a sticker that has a few build codes on it telling you things like diff gears, limited slip, type of diff, transfer case, ect. I put valvoline 80-90w with two bottles of additive (in a Dana 80) and I can pull my TT trailer then put my hand right on the cover. Pretty warm but not to hot to keep my hand on it. I wasnt sold on how well synthetic works with a LSD and mine works great with non-synthetic. Personal preference.
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Thats the idea but it may not spin at the same speed since LSD's work on applied torque. It definately will not spin the other way like an open differential.
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[quote author=Gary - KJ6Q link=board=4;threadid=17909;start=0#msg167615 date=1059923853]
[quote author=Shovelhead link=board=4;threadid=17909;start=#msg167605 date=1059919512]
I refilled mine with Amsoil synthetic on my last change.
Mine has the LSD.
No modifier needed.![Wink](https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Ed
[/quote]
The modifier, with synthetics is RARELY the issue - what IS the issue, is whether or not the limited-slip function still works or not - many don't with synthetics, and owners blithely ASSUME all is well just because they don't get any differential "chattering", until they get into a situation where the LSD is actually needed, then it's
surprise surprise surprise.....
Try putting ONE rear wheel on a stretch of slippery surface, the other on a solid and dry surface, and try a moderately quick takeoff - THEN get back to us on how well the synthetic and your LSD is working - the fact it doesn't chatter is only HALF the story...
;D ;D
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Real world experience over the years. Works well for me w/ no loss of traction in my clutch type diffs. Nor, of course in my Detroits, or in my spooled Jeeps.
To each, their own.
Verify your own performance, as I do mine.
Use the proper fluid for your application.
[quote author=Shovelhead link=board=4;threadid=17909;start=#msg167605 date=1059919512]
I refilled mine with Amsoil synthetic on my last change.
Mine has the LSD.
No modifier needed.
![Wink](https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Ed
[/quote]
The modifier, with synthetics is RARELY the issue - what IS the issue, is whether or not the limited-slip function still works or not - many don't with synthetics, and owners blithely ASSUME all is well just because they don't get any differential "chattering", until they get into a situation where the LSD is actually needed, then it's
surprise surprise surprise.....
Try putting ONE rear wheel on a stretch of slippery surface, the other on a solid and dry surface, and try a moderately quick takeoff - THEN get back to us on how well the synthetic and your LSD is working - the fact it doesn't chatter is only HALF the story...
![Wink](https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
[/quote]
Real world experience over the years. Works well for me w/ no loss of traction in my clutch type diffs. Nor, of course in my Detroits, or in my spooled Jeeps.
To each, their own.
Verify your own performance, as I do mine.
Use the proper fluid for your application.
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YUP - sure wish I could have used the full synthetic - it was $40 wasted... Undoubtedly would have been better for he gears and bearings, but I frequently NEED that LSD to work right, so have to settle for the Valvoline 80/140 synthetic blend instead...
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FYI--
ALL VALVOLINE gear oil products sold in 1-qt bottles already have the modifier in them. no matter whether its dino, syn, blend or whatever. Applies to ALL viscosities.
I went though this debacle in figured it out after calling valvoline.
Justin
ALL VALVOLINE gear oil products sold in 1-qt bottles already have the modifier in them. no matter whether its dino, syn, blend or whatever. Applies to ALL viscosities.
I went though this debacle in figured it out after calling valvoline.
Justin
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Re: Re:LSD or no LSD
Originally posted by scottrod
If you jack up the rear end and spin a tire the other will go in the same direction if it's a lsd.
If you jack up the rear end and spin a tire the other will go in the same direction if it's a lsd.
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