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Lift Pump-Campaign, NAPA, AIRTEX/Vulcan

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Old 12-06-2007, 04:21 PM
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Napa quoted me 200 for the replacement,( 2 year warrenty ? )
Manager told me 1 guy is on his 3rd pump....

But for 160 they have the carter HP ( 4601HP ) 15psi and comes with hose barbs , clamps, mount bracket and some other odds and ends
only problem it needs a regulator that does not come with pump...
seems like a better deal

Above 4601 @ Summit 119; Jegs 122
Old 12-06-2007, 10:14 PM
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Is there a number that goes with the Airtex you guys are talking about?
Old 12-09-2007, 10:29 AM
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Yes - Id be interested in a part number also. Does this bolt right up to the stock LP location? Same harness - fuel lines, etc?

Just burned up another Carter.
Old 12-09-2007, 10:52 AM
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Yes P/N E-7153. It is a direct bolt on.
Old 12-09-2007, 11:09 AM
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Thanks scook. I'll give it a try this time around.

Sounds like similar PSI (15-16?)

Similar cost?

Warranty?

Couldnt be much worse than the Carter.

My carters have rarely moved off of 15-16 psi as long as they were operating correctly - regardless of idle vs wot.

I'm always astounded when I run across someone with one of these 2nd gens without a fuel pressure gauge installed. I'm certain I'd be on my 2nd or 3rd injector pump if not for this $30 gauge setup.
Old 12-09-2007, 03:52 PM
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In my humble opinion, the carters are an inj.pump failure waiting to happen. I was happy with a frame mounted Holly Blue until fuel spilled on it, attracted dirt & wore out the commutator. Currently I've got the orig. worn out carter mounted near fuel tank, feeding the new design Airtech mounted on the frame in eng. compartment, wired to a toggle switch. 0-15 psi Autometer gauge pegged @idle, runs @14-15PSI@WFO. I use Powerservice religeously. The pump was $180.00 @Carquest, I forget what warr.period was, but I don't loose sleep worrying about the inj. pump going out now. Good luck, dg.
Old 12-18-2007, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by billmac
My truck is on it's third LP since I moved it to the frame rail 20 months and 25k miles ago.
Did you try running any of the three without ever letting the fuel get below 1/2 a tank?--or below 1/4 tank?
Old 12-18-2007, 12:05 PM
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My truck very seldom saw less than 1/2 tank. Never less than 1/4. PS-Silver, always. Started 2 stoke when ULSD came out.
Have the Vulcan kit, with the pump by the tank. None of it seems to matter.
I think most people burn these out in 1 year of less.
Sign me up for Class action! The Carters are bad. How many $millions have been spent by us, Dodge, Cummins, as a result of this flawed(being kind)
POS?
On am on pump 3 in 42k. I will switch to the Airtex as soon as I get the pieces from Vulcan.
Hopefully they will be a good solution.
Old 12-18-2007, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by supr
I will switch to the Airtex as soon as I get the pieces from Vulcan.
Hopefully they will be a good solution.

Does he have them ready yet? I have a brand new Airtex just waiting to go in but I can't do it without the fittings. I'm on my last Carter and if this ones goes before I can get the fittings, I'm bitting the bullet and getting Air Dog's little brother (Predator, I think that's what it's called).
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well all I have to add is I still have the original, never been changed. It's an 02. I should send it to the Smithsonian Institute!
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Smile

My carter lift pump went out in 900 miles. I saved my vp44 thanks to the isspro fpg. Just installed the PASS DDRP-02 and I've got twenty pounds fuel pressure at idle and seventeen WOT with a four year replacement warranty $250. I hope it lasts.
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Yawwnnnn....... I changed the original lift pump on my 01 in 07 when the ULSD came out due to seepage at the top cover gasket. Put another stock one on, and put a new gasket on the original to keep it around just in case. Cummins actually had a bullitin about this issue and had the updated part.
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It would be nice if they would SHARE those little tidbits of information with all of us who have replaced pump after pump on our own dime........
Old 09-23-2010, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Shovelhead
It would be nice if they would SHARE those little tidbits of information with all of us who have replaced pump after pump on our own dime........
campaign pump for me .....240,000 miles
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I bought 2 Campaign pumps when they first came out, at the Freightliner dealer. They don't sell the Campaign pumps any more.

The Campaign pumps lasted just over a year each and I replaced them with a Walbro 392 mounted by the tank. The Walbro has been a solid performer for about two years now and I hope to get many more years out of it.

My VP44 seems quite content. It has been working well for about six years now.

I bought my Walbro from http://walbrofuelpumps.com/


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