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Old 01-20-2010 | 09:07 AM
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What will the visual inspection consist of? I can put my stock air filter back on since I kept the old parts. Also, I can remove the Smarty but I will probably leave in the injectors although I did keep the old ones. I do not want to replace my exhaust system back to original since I didn't keep the original parts. I hope the earlier post is correct about the exhaust system not being part of it. I didn't know that these came with catilytic converters. I did have a muffler installed but not a "cat". Has anyone in CA had a smog test yet? My vin is odd# so mine will be next year.
Your exhaust is Kosher,it's the injectors that may be too smokey.
Old 01-20-2010 | 09:17 AM
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The news from Cal. gets worse. I am in Cal. for the winter on a job right now. According to KFI radio, in Los Angeles, the Cal. legislature passed a law, and Schwartenegger signed it, which mandates ALL construction diesels and ALL commercial diesel trucks registered in the State MUST have particulate traps. According to KFI the cost of the changes are in the neighborhood of $15,000 per truck. They had several callers who had owned trucking businesses who had sold all their trucks and had quit business. So far this doesn't apply to us, but I wonder what the effect would be for a guy with a 1-ton who deliver's trailers or who has a small car-hauling business?
very simple, register in a different state
Old 01-20-2010 | 01:29 PM
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Do our trucks originally come with a cat stock?? I got mind with the exhaust on already and no cat.
Old 01-20-2010 | 04:17 PM
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98.5-2002 had no Cat.
Old 01-20-2010 | 04:23 PM
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I am not trying to be a Edit here, but what is the problem with the cat. converter? I don't see how it can suck power from an engine. I believe all it does is through the use of a catalyst (platinum) cause unburned hydrocarbons to burn inside the cat. How does that affect power or gas mileage?
Old 01-21-2010 | 11:44 AM
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I could be way wrong but it was my understanding that most of the Diesel smog reg's in California have been put off until 2014. I know many reg's are on the table and you can read all sorts of info about them but most of the info you read is from 2008. I believe we have a few more years to run our older trucks the way we want. Most of the reg's on the table apply to large truck fleets not the guy with a Diesel pick up.
Old 01-21-2010 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert Rausch
I am not trying to be a Edit here, but what is the problem with the cat. converter? I don't see how it can suck power from an engine. I believe all it does is through the use of a catalyst (platinum) cause unburned hydrocarbons to burn inside the cat. How does that affect power or gas mileage?
It really doesn't for a while at least. The problem is many of these trucks have way over 100K miles, and those Cats become plugged.

They aren't exactly cheap either...............
Old 01-28-2010 | 12:43 PM
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Ya CA sucks these rules have been in play for years back in my tuner car days. Basicly it breakds down like this if it does not have a CARB # on it it will not pass the visual inspection regardless if it passes the smoke test or in the case of gasoline powered vehicles even if all the parts still pass the sniffer. ITs a joke and a cash cow for the state cause the aftermarket has to pay big dollars to get the CARB certificate and then that price is passed onto u and I when the products cost double what they used to.

Best way to get around this is stealth mode as we call it meaning u can modify the truck like a **** just make it apear factory. SO aftermarket turbo's are illegal but are they really gona check the turbo to see if its the factory one not likely just dont get the polished one or it will attract attention and then they might. Injectors they cant see just dont get super smokey sticks and your fine. Intakes are visible but S&B are CARB aproved so no big deal there. If u get a tuner just flash it back to factory settings on smog day. CP3's same thing cant do two of them but a modified one would work. Airdogg fuel pumps are CARB aproved.

SO u can still have fun just have to do it smart and stealthy

Yes CA smogg sucks because one we have to do it and second it eliminates some set ups like twins etc but there are ways to beat the man at ther own game.

The only thing i can see coming out of this is that companys will probably have to fine tune there set ups to get CARB aproval and offer a smokeless tune. Cool thing about this is say a company makes a full twins set up with CARB apoval tune now it will pass the smoke test and visual but can still be upgraded with say a offroad tune for power and still be able to be turned back down for smogg day and still pass.

It sucks for our wallets but the game is not over just alittle more tricky thats all.

just my .02 cents

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Old 05-17-2010 | 08:04 PM
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I cant find out why my 98 12 valve needs an inspection, theres no programers for these beauties. so its a waste of time. every thing is mechanical.
Old 05-18-2010 | 08:22 AM
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I cant find out why my 98 12 valve needs an inspection, theres no programers for these beauties. so its a waste of time. every thing is mechanical.
Have you been pulled in for an inspection? I thought the vin indicated inspection, not just the model year.
Old 05-18-2010 | 06:28 PM
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If the 12 valvers had catalytic converters stock, they wanna see'em.
Old 05-18-2010 | 07:13 PM
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PatDaly, what are the signs of a plugged up catalytic converter?
Old 05-19-2010 | 07:44 AM
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low boost/power. The exhaust tone on ones I have seen sound different, more of a hissing instead of that hollow rasp.
Old 05-19-2010 | 09:20 AM
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Thanks Pat. 255,000 miles and mine definitely isn't plugged. That's good to know.
Old 05-19-2010 | 03:15 PM
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here are the smog device regulations and muffler regulations for california.. Pretty cut and dry....:

27156. (a) No person shall operate or leave standing upon a highway
a motor vehicle that is a gross polluter, as defined in Section
39032.5 of the Health and Safety Code.
(b) No person shall operate or leave standing upon a highway a
motor vehicle that is required to be equipped with a motor vehicle
pollution control device under Part 5 (commencing with Section 43000)
of Division 26 of the Health and Safety Code or any other certified
motor vehicle pollution control device required by any other state
law or any rule or regulation adopted pursuant to that law, or
required to be equipped with a motor vehicle pollution control device
pursuant to the National Emission Standards Act (42 U.S.C. Secs.
7521 to 7550, inclusive) and the standards and regulations adopted
pursuant to that federal act, unless the motor vehicle is equipped
with the required motor vehicle pollution control device that is
correctly installed and in operating condition. No person shall
disconnect, modify, or alter any such required device.
(c) No person shall install, sell, offer for sale, or advertise
any device, apparatus, or mechanism intended for use with, or as a
part of, a required motor vehicle pollution control device or system
that alters or modifies the original design or performance of the
motor vehicle pollution control device or system.
(d) If the court finds that a person has willfully violated this
section, the court shall impose the maximum fine that may be imposed
in the case, and no part of the fine may be suspended.
(e) "Willfully," as used in this section, has the same meaning as
the meaning of that word prescribed in Section 7 of the Penal Code.
(f) No person shall operate a vehicle after notice by a traffic
officer that the vehicle is not equipped with the required certified
motor vehicle pollution control device correctly installed in
operating condition, except as may be necessary to return the vehicle
to the residence or place of business of the owner or driver or to a
garage, until the vehicle has been properly equipped with such a
device.
(g) The notice to appear issued or complaint filed for a violation
of this section shall require that the person to whom the notice to
appear is issued, or against whom the complaint is filed, produce
proof of correction pursuant to Section 40150 or proof of exemption
pursuant to Section 4000.1 or 4000.2.
(h) This section shall not apply to an alteration, modification,
or modifying device, apparatus, or mechanism found by resolution of
the State Air Resources Board to do either of the following:
(1) Not to reduce the effectiveness of a required motor vehicle
pollution control device.
(2) To result in emissions from the modified or altered vehicle
that are at levels that comply with existing state or federal
standards for that model-year of the vehicle being modified or
converted.
(i) Aftermarket and performance parts with valid State Air
Resources Board Executive Orders may be sold and installed concurrent
with a motorcycle's transfer to an ultimate purchaser.
(j) This section applies to motor vehicles of the United States or
its agencies, to the extent authorized by federal law.


27151. (a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor
vehicle in a manner which will amplify or increase the noise emitted
by the motor of the vehicle so that the vehicle is not in compliance
with the provisions of Section 27150 or exceeds the noise limits
established for the type of vehicle in Article 2.5 (commencing with
Section 27200). No person shall operate a motor vehicle with an
exhaust system so modified.
(b) For the purposes of exhaust systems installed on motor
vehicles with a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating of less
than 6,000 pounds, other than motorcycles, a sound level of 95 dbA or
less, when tested in accordance with Society of Automotive Engineers
Standard J1169 May 1998, complies with this section. Motor vehicle
exhaust systems or parts thereof include, but are not limited to,
nonoriginal exhaust equipment.

27150. (a) Every motor vehicle subject to registration shall at all
times be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and
properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise, and
no muffler or exhaust system shall be equipped with a cutout, bypass,
or similar device.
(b) Except as provided in Division 16.5 (commencing with Section
38000) with respect to off-highway motor vehicles subject to
identification, every passenger vehicle operated off the highways
shall at all times be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant
operation and properly maintained so as to meet the requirements of
Article 2.5 (commencing with Section 27200), and no muffler or
exhaust system shall be equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar
device.
(c) The provisions of subdivision (b) shall not be applicable to
passenger vehicles being operated off the highways in an organized
racing or competitive event conducted under the auspices of a
recognized sanctioning body or by permit issued by the local
governmental authority having jurisdiction.


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