Forrest Nearing

sorry, but 1300* racing a d-max shouldn't have caused scoring on #6... even with boxes, etc.

my money is on a clogged #6 cooling nozzle.

I would just buy a used engine and put it in there... you can buy another TRUCK for $8-12k!

dodgediesel

The score on #6 is too deep to just hone out the scratches. Parts are expensive in canadian funds. Labor alone is $3300.00 to remove the engine, re-sleeve #6, hone out the rest, re-ring 1-5 and install it. Parts on top of that.

mouseguy

Who is doing the work ? A Dodge dealer ?

Why does #6 need to be re sleeved ? Can't it just be bored ?

Honing cylinders is not expensive. A drill and some lube and a hone and a few hours and its done.

So what combo are you running on this truck that made it score ?

Dr. Evil

You guys just dont understand the inflated prices we have to pay north of the border.

Ram2Pete

dude it not just north of the borde its just typical diesel stuff I work for CATERPILLAR and it is not cheap to fix them (typical rebuild is 40 grand but these are on fishing boat engines)

this is how to look at diesel related repairs. if it cost 100 buck to fix a gas engine it will cost at least 200 bucks to fix the same problem in a diesel its just the way the industy is diesel= bigger parts, better metal for the parts, which = BIG Dollars

and to the reason the cummins cant be just oversized is that the water jacket are around the cylinders in somewhat thin for a diesel, thus the need to relsleve the cylinder to keep the strenght to the cylinder wall, these engines have a ton more vibration to the cylinders then there gasser counter parts

oh and the dodge in my pics galley has the stacks the other one is a buddy of mine I wish mine looked like that

dodgediesel

You can't hone out the deep scratches that I got. Even if you do hone it, what shape is the rest of the pistons, etc???? If 1 cylinder got it, there is a chance that the other's might have damage also??? It is just plain expensive to build these engines especially when rings from Cummins are $1400.00 for 6 sets and each piston is $450.00..

Forrest Nearing

well, it's probably just #6... seen this a number of times. I've got a 24v engine in the garage that suffered the same fate. what oil filter are you running?

canadian $ makes more sense at those prices...

smokindog

I was thinking the same thing..... then I went and re-read his 1st post. He said he wasn't watching the EGT gauge so we can figure there were times that he was well over that!

Mcmopar

I've seen some posts on this site about 1700* and even one about 2200*F!!

RustyJC

As I said earlier, 1300 degF for sustained periods of time when timing advance, extra fueling and extra boost are involved is a whole different kettle of fish insofar as heat transfer to the piston crowns is concerned than 1300 degF with a stock engine.

Rusty

mouseguy

I said rebore, not hone !

"especially when rings from Cummins are $1400.00 for 6 sets and each piston is $450.00.."

Is that from a Dodge dealer or a Cummins dealer ?

Here is a complete overhaul kit for a 6BTA for $695

http://www.agkits.com/browseproducts...t-(Early).HTML

I can't imagine a 24V kit would be much more.

But its your money, so do what you want.

DRD

I wonder if this later kit: http://www.agkits.com/index.asp?Page...OD&ProdID=1712 is the correct one for a 24Valve?

mouseguy

I think the 6B term refers to a 12V. I think a 24V would be called an ISB.

It wouldn't take too much to call them with a CPL. Sounds like they are good at matching the right parts to the right engine.

mouseguy

"especially when rings from Cummins are $1400.00 for 6 sets and each piston is $450.00"

So $1400 for rings and $2700 for pistons ? Thats $4100 and it doesn't included any bearings or gaskets !

Something isn't making sense there. I don't care if you are from Canada. I'd get a second opinion before I spent that kind of money on those parts.

And I wouldn't get it done at a Dodge dealer. They specialize in cars, not trucks. Before they tore into the engine, I'd ask the mechanic how many Cummins he's rebuilt over the years.

Mike Holmen

If your bucks down, you could just re-bore the #6 cylinder (honing the same thing, just takes longer and your cylinder isn't as straight doing it this way) and buy one oversized piston. Re-sleeving is for have major damage and it can only be done at a machine shop as the ISB has a dry sleeve. You motor might vibrate motor with a different piston but if you want you could weigh your parts and see how close you are. Typically there is a balancing pad under the rod of the piston, where you could adjust. I've done this on many gaser, so its worth a try. You could also find a good used motor for your truck for the same money. If you don't want the motor I'll buy it off you as I want a spare that I can build up with the good stuff or I can buy your truck off you.