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#16
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Had a 99 yesterday with problems quite similar to what you have.
Searched by measuring the supply voltage to the CPK, found it rather low (3.5V)- started unplugging other sensors while watching the voltage.
Long story short - the MAP sensor had shorted internally and had pulled down the voltage just enough to mess with crank and cam signals but not enough to trigger a fault code for the MAP.
Searched by measuring the supply voltage to the CPK, found it rather low (3.5V)- started unplugging other sensors while watching the voltage.
Long story short - the MAP sensor had shorted internally and had pulled down the voltage just enough to mess with crank and cam signals but not enough to trigger a fault code for the MAP.
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#17
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Had a 99 yesterday with problems quite similar to what you have.
Searched by measuring the supply voltage to the CPK, found it rather low (3.5V)- started unplugging other sensors while watching the voltage.
Long story short - the MAP sensor had shorted internally and had pulled down the voltage just enough to mess with crank and cam signals but not enough to trigger a fault code for the MAP.
Searched by measuring the supply voltage to the CPK, found it rather low (3.5V)- started unplugging other sensors while watching the voltage.
Long story short - the MAP sensor had shorted internally and had pulled down the voltage just enough to mess with crank and cam signals but not enough to trigger a fault code for the MAP.
#18
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Did you measure the 5V while running?
Is that 5V supply stable during all the phases- start, rough running and normal?
Did you try to let the engine run with only power to the VP44?
Is that 5V supply stable during all the phases- start, rough running and normal?
Did you try to let the engine run with only power to the VP44?
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#20
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I think that you will find something almost trivial, but also quite "far away" from what you do expect now.
That's why I recommend to start isolating the problems.
Try to make the engine run in "dumb mode", just +12V and ground to the VP44, should idle OK, if not the problem is in the VP44, if it does you know that the IP is sane enough to throw a code if it has any other problems.
Do you have any other problems with this truck- anything else that does not work? AC, charging etc?
This could help with chasing that gremlin.
That's why I recommend to start isolating the problems.
Try to make the engine run in "dumb mode", just +12V and ground to the VP44, should idle OK, if not the problem is in the VP44, if it does you know that the IP is sane enough to throw a code if it has any other problems.
Do you have any other problems with this truck- anything else that does not work? AC, charging etc?
This could help with chasing that gremlin.
#21
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I think that you will find something almost trivial, but also quite "far away" from what you do expect now.
That's why I recommend to start isolating the problems.
Try to make the engine run in "dumb mode", just +12V and ground to the VP44, should idle OK, if not the problem is in the VP44, if it does you know that the IP is sane enough to throw a code if it has any other problems.
Do you have any other problems with this truck- anything else that does not work? AC, charging etc?
This could help with chasing that gremlin.
That's why I recommend to start isolating the problems.
Try to make the engine run in "dumb mode", just +12V and ground to the VP44, should idle OK, if not the problem is in the VP44, if it does you know that the IP is sane enough to throw a code if it has any other problems.
Do you have any other problems with this truck- anything else that does not work? AC, charging etc?
This could help with chasing that gremlin.
#22
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What I think is that you might also have a bad instrument cluster- or wiring towards the cluster.
If you short the bus somewhere you will get erratic indications on the cluster (because it is only told ba the bus what to show) and on the other hand you get erratic commands to the ECM, the PCM and the VP44..
If you short the bus somewhere you will get erratic indications on the cluster (because it is only told ba the bus what to show) and on the other hand you get erratic commands to the ECM, the PCM and the VP44..
#23
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What I think is that you might also have a bad instrument cluster- or wiring towards the cluster.
If you short the bus somewhere you will get erratic indications on the cluster (because it is only told ba the bus what to show) and on the other hand you get erratic commands to the ECM, the PCM and the VP44..
If you short the bus somewhere you will get erratic indications on the cluster (because it is only told ba the bus what to show) and on the other hand you get erratic commands to the ECM, the PCM and the VP44..
#24
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Ok took pump off this time replaced cam sensor for the 2 nd time. Checked all wiring did notice the magnetic pull was not very strong but it worked. Put everything back together still says I need a cam sensor . Pulled the connector to the Ecm and cleaned it still no change. I still have the oil pressure gauge not working that started with the 2nd ecm. I did put the old crank sensor back in also. Still open for any ideas men I miss my truck I'm 60 yrs old and have never been stumped like this
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