1800 cummins a fluke
#16
Well put TNutcher.
If you don't like what Cummins has to offer, sell your truck and go buy a Dmax or something. If this was a safety issue of some sort, then a recall or more obligation would be made by Cummins to fix it, however it is a known defect that was corrected. The problem is the defect didn't surface until after a few years of production.
It's not like the engineers at Cummins sit there think "boy, what can we pull over on them this time... we need something that will last them a few years and then grenade on them. It'll sell like hot cakes!" People make mistakes, companies make mistakes. Companies have to compensate for their mistakes with warranty work. The warranty is clearly stated in the manual, anything outside of that is your faith in the product.
If you don't like what Cummins has to offer, sell your truck and go buy a Dmax or something. If this was a safety issue of some sort, then a recall or more obligation would be made by Cummins to fix it, however it is a known defect that was corrected. The problem is the defect didn't surface until after a few years of production.
It's not like the engineers at Cummins sit there think "boy, what can we pull over on them this time... we need something that will last them a few years and then grenade on them. It'll sell like hot cakes!" People make mistakes, companies make mistakes. Companies have to compensate for their mistakes with warranty work. The warranty is clearly stated in the manual, anything outside of that is your faith in the product.
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Look its a common problem in the same spot on the engine it's a defect...Quit taking up for cummins , dont get me wrong I love the cummins engine I really do ,It makes me upset when they help some and dont others....thats all
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What you say in answer to my question is, they did NOT know about the 53 blocks prior to selling them. This tells me that a class action suit won't work, because Cummins/Dodge didn't deliberately sell a bad product to the consumer.
Now, if the individual feels he has a problem, a civil suit might work. But one thing you'd need is an actual crack in the block, not just a 53 casting.
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Most of the folks with the cracked blocks are also modified to produce way more Hp & Torque out of their engines than when they left Cummins factory detuned to Dodge Specs to be installed in a pickup truck.
There are thousands of 53 blocked 5.9 ISB CTDs happily running down the road without a problem.
There are thousands of 53 blocked 5.9 ISB CTDs happily running down the road without a problem.
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I'm not saying it's fair that they help some and not others, but some things just aren't fair.
Most of the folks with the cracked blocks are also modified to produce way more Hp & Torque out of their engines than when they left Cummins factory detuned to Dodge Specs to be installed in a pickup truck.
There are thousands of 53 blocked 5.9 ISB CTDs happily running down the road without a problem.
There are thousands of 53 blocked 5.9 ISB CTDs happily running down the road without a problem.
And I did have a 53 that I planned to keep forever untill it was stolen...
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Most of the folks with the cracked blocks are also modified to produce way more Hp & Torque out of their engines than when they left Cummins factory detuned to Dodge Specs to be installed in a pickup truck.
There are thousands of 53 blocked 5.9 ISB CTDs happily running down the road without a problem.
There are thousands of 53 blocked 5.9 ISB CTDs happily running down the road without a problem.
There are also thousands (yes, thousands) of trucks that didn't run happily down the road as the result of a cracked 53. I see no justifcation of the problem with your last statement.
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