farmer0_1

i have seen a 1985 one ton 4x4 single tire crew cab pu with a gasser in it. would like to buy a parts pu and change it over to cummins with a nv4500 five speed and correct transfer case. is there a lot of difference in the frame between an 85 one ton and lets say a first gen 90's cummins pu.? are the rear doors impossible to find? just like to have a more family friendly pu.

frostie

I have heard its a bolt up but dont know for sure. I would love to have a 4 door long bed cummins. Yes first gen. the mega cabs are nice but dont want to shell out $40K ore more

Winr

Went from This ( '83 D-350 swr, 440, Auto)

To This (Cummins 5spd )

Same truck. Pretty much a bolt in with some minor mods ( no frame mods required) And yes rear, doors are next to impossible to find. Every once in a while there's one or two on Ebay

farmer0_1

thanks for the response its still not a done deal i will bring pictures if i get it purchased.

csramsey640

"Same truck. Pretty much a bolt in with some minor mods ( no frame mods required) And yes rear, doors are next to impossible to find. Every once in a while there's one or two on Ebay"

I have 3 sets of rear doors Not for sale. I also have an 85 crew cab, and it does look to be the same.

t8ter

Dodge made a 4x4 4dr short bed?

dpuckett

Yes, it seems you got either a long bed xcab, or short bed crew in 4x4 trim. Maybe too much weight for a gasser to lug around? driveline issues? who knows. But if you see a 4x4 long bed crew, it isnt likely stock. Kinda like the new Mega Cab in SWB only.

Daniel

janb

or just buy one that someone else already did...
http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/car/218079707.html

sorry, but 2wd

PeteRR

There's a 4x4 crewcab w/ the 6ft bed sitting in a salvage yard in Ridgecrest, CA right now. It's complete and the body looks to be in great shape. If I had a place to put it, I'd grab it in a NY minute.

farmer0_1

so let me ask this---------- i have a 93 4x4 long box cummins is the frame and wheel base the same on a 4x4 short box crew cab. mmmmmmmmmmmmm otherwords could i pull my cab and box and install cc and shortbox on my frame without lengthening it. or is the club cab long box closer to the right length. i had seen the crew cab on the craigslist , thanks for showing me. i would like to keep it a single tired one ton. had a dually chevy diesel 4x4 in the past and loved the way it hauled , but had no traction in snow or mud even with 4x4 and could not make it thru drive thru anywere with my old dually.

csramsey640

I currently have 3 crew cabs, and all of them are short beds. The pre 1981's obviously have a diff body, however the rear doors appear to be identical to what they used in the 80's I have 2 4x4 short beds, and 1 2wd short bed.

Im sure a long bed would be very difficult to find. Im starting to wonder if they did use a club cab, long bed frame, and thus used a short bed-i dont know, its a guess.

dpuckett

I know a guy who is putting a crew cab shortbed on his 93 Club cab long bed chassis.

farmer0_1- That's funny that your dually wouldnt do well in snow or mud- my current one does quite well in snow for being 1wd (900# flatbed on back helps, I'd guess.) I had a W350 dually that'd go places a JD 4020 wouldnt go. Not doubting you, just odd that it clashes with my personal experience.

-DP

woodrat

The only thing I would be worried about with a double cab is turning radius. I borrowed my parents' king cab ford for while before I bought my truck, and you needed 40 acres to turn that thing around!

Whada

so let me ask this---------- i have a 93 4x4 long box cummins is the frame and wheel base the same on a 4x4 short box crew cab. mmmmmmmmmmmmm otherwords could i pull my cab and box and install cc and shortbox on my frame without lengthening it. or is the club cab long box closer to the right length. i had seen the crew cab on the craigslist , thanks for showing me. i would like to keep it a single tired one ton. had a dually chevy diesel 4x4 in the past and loved the way it hauled , but had no traction in snow or mud even with 4x4 and could not make it thru drive thru anywere with my old dually.


Farmer0 1
Actually niether will work.First its definately longer than standard cab long bed frame.Secondly the kick up in the frame on clubcab is in the wrong spot for a crewcab.On a clubcab the rear floor is higher than the front seat thus putting the kickup in the frame the same spot as a standard cab,but on a crewcab the front and rear seat floors are the same height,putting the kickup back a lot farther.With out modifing either the cab or the frame the only way a crewcab will sit flat is on a crewcab frame.

Winr

Here is the difference in Crew cab vs std/club cab frame