gyman98

I don't think the American Feds would care at all in this case, I did phone Transport Canada though and left a message for a "recall agent"

I should of mentioned that its a Mopar reman and under the recall posted above they say reman's are covered too if the infinity symbol isn't on the reman plate or pump plate

bobva

I agree 100% on that but i beleive he is referring to reman is,, its a MOPAR reman which is under recall.

maybe368

You may be surprised, they are bureaucrats and the consumer safety commission takes safety recalls pretty seriously. Worth a report anyway, but if not, it's not a bad thing to drop in a discussion with a Canadian service manager, IMO..Mark

user name

That changes my opinion big time if it's a MOPAR they are responsible to make it right. Now if you've modded the pump you may have problems.

user name

on a side note I bet my 92 I just turned up would have qualified.

THEBIGBULLY

Nope!!!!!

I took out my power pin, 3200 spring and replaced the originals and turned everything back to where it was originally was.

I told the dealer the previous owner removed the fuel tampering stuff.

I had been in my pump numerous times.

There is NOT a Dodge dealership ANYWHERE that will look in the pump. THEY ARE NOT TRAINED TO TAKE EVEN ONE NUT OR BOLT OFF OF A PUMP AND WILL NEVER EVEN DREAM TO TAKE THEM APART.

This is what the mechanics have told me.

Pumps go to the pump mechanics and that is that.

(now that I have said that Dodge will probably come and take mine back

gyman98

As far as I know the pump is stock, it doesn't make any smoke and seems pretty slow so I'm guessing the previous owner never messed with it. He was the original owner and hardly knew anything about it, maintenance was done at the dealership

gyman98

phoned another Dodge dealership who said they couldn't help me because it doesnt show up on their computer and suggested phoning 1-800-465-2001

Talked to lady named Laurie there employee number LV119 who said that they will not repair my truck under recall #605. If my truck is going WOT while driving it is my problem to get it fixed

Mark Nixon

The information is provided because the INTENT is to preclude lawsuits due to SAFETY RELATED FAILURES.
SAFETY RECALLS ARE NON-EXPIRING!
Also, pump modifications ARE NOT COVERED, so if you'd modified it by removing the covers and played with the screws, you're out.

Go here and input the last 8 of your VIN to see if there are any actual recall notices on your vehicle:

http://www.dodge.com/webselfservice/...eenName=recall

Mark.

gyman98

I agree, just stating what Dodge told me regarding a 10yr deadline.

When I input the last 8 of my VIN into those online tools, it says no outstanding recalls but so did THEBIGBULLYS.

I think my truck didn't have a problem pump on it when new but when the replacement pump was installed under warranty I think they used a NOS pump they had on the shelf. According to the recall MOPAR reman pumps should be covered if the build date is in range and no infinity symbol. My date code is 167 and it has no infinity symbol.

I've talked to 2 recall agents at Transport Canada, neither one was willing to help me and said it was up to Dodge to monitor their own recalls and that recalls are based on VIN only.

I finally got the service manager to agree to phone the district manager, if he says no then I am SOL

Mark Nixon

I have 2 NOS injection pumps that are NOT the "205" number, but IIRC, the recalled pumps were also not all 205 pumps.
Does anyone know the part number on the "Defective Recall" or the "Shelf Replacement" pumps that may fall into the faulty category?

A side note, I have a 419 pump here that had an interesting problem of locking up the AFC lever into shutdown, as well as not starting when it was hot, again due to this lever malfunction.
I'm THINKING it's totally unrelated to the recall.

I'm also under the impression that the defect problem was caught earlier in the 1993 model year and that the problem affected a good majority of the 1991-1/2 and the 1992 model year trucks.
I personally have 3 trucks with 205 pumps and no recalls.

Using that site listed above, in a range of 25 vehicles, I found 5 recall notices for the injection pumps within a 20 number span, all on 1992 vehicles.

Those 5 are:

NM502500
NM502506
NM502515
NM502521
NM502523

And I'm sure there will be more in there, if a guy pursues it.

If Dodge were indeed replacing problem OEM pumps with defective on-the-shelf pumps, not knowing, there possibly is a few recall ones that were installed on previously recalled vehicles.

Mark.

gyman98

According to the recall its not so much a pump part number but a date code on the pump itself. IIRC any pump that is between 163-169 and wasnt fixed and stamped with the infinity symbol is defective.

My last 8 digits are a lot higher then the ones you listed, NM555668 could explain why my truck was never part of the recall just had a older then the truck, pump installed. The recall was issued in July of 1994 so my guess is mine was replaced sometime before that

Mark Nixon

"NM" in the numbers above represents 1992.
"PM" represents 1993.
"MS" represents 1991.

Mark.

dzl_damon

My pump failed on me going to get firewood a few weeks ago. Lost all power and the engine quit, then picked up 3 times. Then went WOT. Luckily shutdown with the pull cable. Yes, my pump is modded. However, the lever that seems to have broke had no additional stress on it I could see, and it appears to be the same issue the recall pumps had.

I chased every lead i could, and I kept getting managers higher up that kept saying "No" in a more firm tone than the last one. They kept telling me the recall was over, but the letter in all the documentation CLEARLY says (in pdf format in a signed letter) that the recall is effective no matter what the age or mileage.

I just needed my truck on the road, so I yanked a good runner from a parts truck and I'll fix the other pump with a core I have later. My numbers were not 163-169. I think mine was 266, but it was an early 93 truck with "92 model year" emissions stamps on the engine data plate. The breaking was consistant with the failed pumps, but I've just kind of given up. I know my hands have been in the pump, and they will blame that immediately so I've just given up.

Gave me a scary ride I won't forget soon. Really made me upset and start to look at Duramax. Almost put the fleet on craigslist cheap!

Mark Nixon

Knowing Corporations as we do, I wouldn't be surprised if the database that shows these recalls became "unavailable" before too long.
I was talking to someone earlier this evening, a local guy who worked for a GM dealer and he was telling me of an entity that you can go to that will definitely circumvent all the BS and it gets notice.

The darned name eludes me, however.

It's in the same realm as the NTSB.

Mark.