Problem with controlling OD using governor pressure
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Problem with controlling OD using governor pressure
I did the "Controlling OD using governor pressure" fix, but it isn't working. I spliced a wire into the smaller (non-blue) wire coming from the overdrive solenoid (I think it has a green or orange tracer on it). The set up isn't working and in troubleshooting it, I got some puzzling results. With a voltmeter, I tested my switch and whether it is actually creating a ground when ON. When the switch is flipped on, that side of the A/C pressure switch installed in the tranny is grounded.....when flipped off, that side is no longer grounded (so it is working from the switch back). The problem I came across is this: the wire I tapped into the overdrive solenoid wire is showing constant ground, as if the wire from the overdrive solenoid is already grounded. I am assuming that it should not be, or the O/D would always be on.... I also hooked the spliced wire directly to the switch (bypassing the pressure switch that I put in the transmission port) and I still have no overdrive. So I know that manually grounding that wire is not providing overdrive. Could the solenoid have gone out, and if so, is it replaceable (it looks like it would be a booger to get out)? Or could this be an internal transmission problem with the overdrive unit itself? If so, what are my options? Thanks for any help...just trying to figure out where to go from here.
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Did a little more research and realize I need to drop the pan and possibly remove the valve body (hope not) to change out the solenoid....also, I saw that overdrive is just the high range of 3rd gear. Does this mean that if I have 3rd gear (which I do), then it is mechanically sound? I recently had the pan off to change the filter....am starting to wonder if I might have caused this problem myself. Thanks guys for any info.
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Have you ever had Overdrive?
When you check the connector, 1 wire has +12 volts when the key is in the run position and the other goes to the PCM (this is the 1 that gets grounded to activate the solenoid). The colors escape me at the moment. I'd eliminate all the extra stuff and just run a wire into the cab with a switch to ground it to check and make sure OD works first and then wire in your fancy stuff.
Then you can go about determining if the solenoid is shot or the OD clutches are toast.
When you check the connector, 1 wire has +12 volts when the key is in the run position and the other goes to the PCM (this is the 1 that gets grounded to activate the solenoid). The colors escape me at the moment. I'd eliminate all the extra stuff and just run a wire into the cab with a switch to ground it to check and make sure OD works first and then wire in your fancy stuff.
Then you can go about determining if the solenoid is shot or the OD clutches are toast.
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The power wire is dark blue. If the solenoid and OD are OK, if you have 12 volts at the blue wire and the other wire is always grounded, the truck will drop into OD as soon as it shifts to 3rd.
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This may help. Dunno for sure.
Go here ~ http://www.transmissioncenter.net/dodge.htm
And scroll on down to almost the bottom looking for "Dodge 518 Conversion"
It shows how to wire that and a lock-up converter if need be . . . .. I think.
Hope this does help.
Go here ~ http://www.transmissioncenter.net/dodge.htm
And scroll on down to almost the bottom looking for "Dodge 518 Conversion"
It shows how to wire that and a lock-up converter if need be . . . .. I think.
Hope this does help.
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Have you ever had Overdrive?
When you check the connector, 1 wire has +12 volts when the key is in the run position and the other goes to the PCM (this is the 1 that gets grounded to activate the solenoid). The colors escape me at the moment. I'd eliminate all the extra stuff and just run a wire into the cab with a switch to ground it to check and make sure OD works first and then wire in your fancy stuff.
Then you can go about determining if the solenoid is shot or the OD clutches are toast.
When you check the connector, 1 wire has +12 volts when the key is in the run position and the other goes to the PCM (this is the 1 that gets grounded to activate the solenoid). The colors escape me at the moment. I'd eliminate all the extra stuff and just run a wire into the cab with a switch to ground it to check and make sure OD works first and then wire in your fancy stuff.
Then you can go about determining if the solenoid is shot or the OD clutches are toast.
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The port in the solenoid is quite small. It doesn't take a lot to clog. When you drop the pan and filter, you will be looking at the solenoid. Be real careful with the wires. I accidentally pinched and grounded mine installing the filter. It shifted into overdrive as soon as it went to third. The new solenoids come with a tie wrap holding the wire to the solenoid bracket. Get rid of it and route the wire away from the filter. That is what we did to remedy the problem. Before you go through all that check the plug going into the tranny. You may have a loose connection.
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