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Old 02-14-2005, 03:54 PM
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Question need throttle and cruise help

i got a new truck and i am so happy , well new to me !. it is a 1990 d250 auto with less than 88,000 miles on it and it runs super. i am new to diesels but not to mechanics as i am a past certified ase master mech ( ret now lol ).
i have read most of the posts on here about 1st gen trucks and have gained a wealth of info , i plan to make some mods but not too many that i overwhelmm the 727 trans . gonna go with a bhaf (wix 42790 ) and some exaust mods and turn up the pump slightly.
i have two unanswered questions ( make that three )

1. my cruise will not hold anything over 60 mph and i want to set it at 70 , i have checked the vacuum ( 20 ) and have negligible play in the cruise actuation cable .......any advice ?

2. my throttle is very hard to hold down ( like it has a gorilla spring ) ....... is there any help for this or is my idea to lengthen the lever arm in the cab my only hope ?

3 . do ya think the throttle stiffness is affecting the cruise ?

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20 inches of vacuum seems like it should be plenty. The throttle stiffness is definately a problem though. Mine is very easy to operate. Is it stiff like spring tension or is it binding in the cable? I think the only spring necessary is the one on the VE pump. If you have an additional spring it could be the culpret. I don't have cruise on mine but On other vehicles the spring tension is definately a factor. There is probably a spring in the cruise servo also.

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it is stiff like a spring , i can find no binding at all in the cable or linkage . there is a spring on the ve pump and the is another spring incorporated into the bellcrank assy where the throttle cable hooks on , i disabled this spring . i am kinda thinking that the resistance of pushing the transmission throttle has something to do with the overall stiffness.
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Is it significantly easier if you temporarily disconnect the tranny cable? That one should be very easy to push/pull also. There are no other springs hideing somewhere?

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My throttle is just stiff enough to make me really appreciate the cruise control on a long drive. My cruise control was acting up, like dropping out when I hit a rough spot in the road. It would also drop out of over drive. I adjusted my TPS from tips I got on DTR and haven't had a problem since. I am not sure if your 90 even has a TPS but it is easy to check out if you have a digital volt meter.
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i have not tried disconnecting the trans cable , i will do that tomorrow and see if my cruise works as it is supposed to.

the 1990 does not have a tps .

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sportydon

You might try Technical Service Bulletin #14-02-90, It deals with what they call high pedal effort. I'll try to attach a link.

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http://dodgeram.info/tsb/1990/14-02-90.htm
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sportydon

You might try Technical Service Bulletin #14-02-90, It deals with what they call high pedal effort. I'll try to attach a link.

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http://dodgeram.info/tsb/1990/14-02-90.htm
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AHA !!!!!!!!! now there is the answer , my trans cable has a spring built into it and the one at that link for the tsb does not . i have the right bracket as i have factory cruise , but i have the wrong trans cable and trans lever and the wrong throttle return springs.
i can do a no cost hack on it ......... remove the spring from the trans cable and re-engineer a spring to return it that has less force .
i hate to buy parts lol
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thats what I did 3 days after i drove the truck off the lot
cut out the spring in the trans cable and used a lighter one I adapted . doesn't seem to have hurt it at all and it was new when i bought the truck... 250K on odometer now
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thanks to leonard and the tsb i now have a truck that is more pleasurable to drive and the cruise works as it should .
the built in spring on the trans kick down cable was the culprit in the cruise and the hard throttle .
i love it when a plan comes together and maybe i will have some contributions in the future. i can help if you have a harley sportster and need it to make power ( mine makes 100hp from 1200 cc,s ).
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It's to bad the original owner didn't have the throttle repaired at a dealer while it was still under warranty, it looks like it would have been covered. I've only had my smoker for a couple of weeks, with all the rain we've had I can't do any work (tweeking) on it until it drys out.
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