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Old 09-07-2008, 03:04 PM
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Loctite on VE pump to prevent tampering?

Well, I was really bored today and I decided to make my old stock 93 not so stock anymore. Nothing fancy, I just wanted to mess around with the fuel pin.

Following the guide in the sticky, I pulled the top 3 allen head screws that were holding the TPS bracket in place.
I gladly took the TPS and threw it in the center console seeing as how I have a POT now.
It came down to the last of the 4 screws which is a flat-head screw on the top right-hand side of the pump...it will not budge. Ive broken 2 screw driver tips trying to get it off. I cleaned some of the dust away around it and there is a dry blue paste residue around the base of the screw.

I know this is not the factory pump cause I found the receipts in the glove box from when the previous owner had the pump replaced.

Has anyone else run into this problem?

Also, how do I get it off?
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Put a set of vise grips or an itty bitty pipe wrench on them to break 'em loose and plan on buying new.
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Originally Posted by powerrammaster
Put a set of vise grips or an itty bitty pipe wrench on them to break 'em loose and plan on buying new.

Done that. That's how I broke them
Old 09-07-2008, 03:41 PM
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If it is Blue Locktite you should be able to soften it with some heat but not too much, maybe a heat gun on the spot or a IR heat lamp.

Might have to replace the rubber parts afterwards though.
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Would heat from normal operation temp possibly be enough to soften it up? Does the pump even get that hot? Ive never put my hand on it right after running it.
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put the tiny vise grips on the screw and not the screw driver also tap on the screw lightly.
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Yeah, I meant the heads of the screws, and to me the pump at operating temp would be as warm as a heat gun could get it.Maybe spray some gum cutter or paint stripper carefully around the screws, it might start to break down the top layers of the loctite. The paint stipper could be dabbed on as it is jelly like and stays where you put it. But, be prepared for seal replacement.
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have you tried using a screw gun or a impact bit driver?
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Originally Posted by archer39
have you tried using a screw gun or a impact bit driver?

If I had one I probably would. All the good tools are back home.

I'd dont have a small enough pair of vice grips to grab the screw so I guess Ill have to borrow one from work or shill out the money to get a small set.

My biggest fear is messing up the head of the screw so bad that I wouldnt be able to grab onto it with anything. I could get an "easy-out" kit but I wanna keep that a last resort. But now that the week has started I wont have that much free time with school and work all this week.

We'll see...
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Originally Posted by GasganoFJ60
If I had one I probably would. All the good tools are back home.

I'd dont have a small enough pair of vice grips to grab the screw so I guess Ill have to borrow one from work or shill out the money to get a small set.

My biggest fear is messing up the head of the screw so bad that I wouldnt be able to grab onto it with anything. I could get an "easy-out" kit but I wanna keep that a last resort. But now that the week has started I wont have that much free time with school and work all this week.

We'll see...
First time I went into my pump I noticed the oddball screw and replaced it with allen an head just like the others.

Now there's no problem..

How to get your's out
You may be at your last resort..
No Idea - other than the small vise grips or easy-outs, sorry.
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Originally Posted by GasganoFJ60
If I had one I probably would. All the good tools are back home.

I'd dont have a small enough pair of vice grips to grab the screw so I guess Ill have to borrow one from work or shill out the money to get a small set.

My biggest fear is messing up the head of the screw so bad that I wouldnt be able to grab onto it with anything. I could get an "easy-out" kit but I wanna keep that a last resort. But now that the week has started I wont have that much free time with school and work all this week.

We'll see...

a impact bit driver like this can be had for pretty cheap at a hardware store. i paid like 20 bucks for one a while back. they are pretty effective too.

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If you booger up the head, worst case scenario, you wait till your home and weld something of leverage onto the heads if welding(tacking) is an option.
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I've found taping on the head of the screws with a BIG hammer to help loosen them, but do it carefully. After doing this several times while playing with the tune of my truck I put anti-seize on the threads and so far it has worked great.
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Originally Posted by archer39
a impact bit driver like this can be had for pretty cheap at a hardware store. i paid like 20 bucks for one a while back. they are pretty effective too.

I second that recommendation. One whack and the screw is loosened. Mine is part of my 1st gen tuning tool kit.
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I picked up a 3/8 impact driver from the parts store today and it worked like a charm. 3 sturdy whacks and it spun free. =D

Thanks for all ya'lls help. What would I do without all the great people here at DTR?

Now the question is, what to do now that the top is off....hmmm....


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