The other day I posted a thread about using the tapered lug nuts to center your wheels. The ride quality was great-smoother than it's ever been. Yesterday and today i've been working on some equipment and had to drive over a curb several times. Yes i'm easy on equipment so no I didn't just jump over the curb. But coming home today I noticed I had lost my fantastic ride quality, "the curb has readjusted my adjustments on my wheels". So tomorrow i'll redo my front wheels again with the tapered lug nuts and leave two on each wheel so this shouldn't happen again. Just to let ya know it can happen.

 

Just a little curious. What is the torque on your lug nuts? The FSM calls for 300 pounds/feet on flange nuts.

 

I didn't torque them. I have a 1/2'' impact that i used to tighten them with. I think it probably over torqued them but not sure. I have 5 or 6 torque wrenches from little in/lbs to a snap-on 2000 ft/lbs thats 6' long but i didn't use any of them-maybe I should.

 

I had thought that leaving at least two per wheel, or better yet four, would make more sense than the flange-nuts.

If the thread-size is the same, one would be well advised to throw the solid Dodge nuts in the nearest pond and replace them with proper Ford Flanged-Washer lug-nuts, such that the big flanged washer contacts the wheel and remains still, while the lug-nut is free to rotate and torque the wheel.

Like I have already said many times, both Ford and Dodge (and I-H) used the coined wheels for many years, even way back in two-piece/split-rim days, with CONICAL nuts and sensible torque-values, instead of that ridiculous 300-ft-pds band-aid for the poor choice of nuts, with no negative issues.

 

Since my simulators will accept the tapered nuts I will have at least 2 on each front. The next time I go junk yarding i'll get the ford style nuts to replace the remaining Dodge nuts. I just hate doing something over.

 

300ft lbs, I don't think my 4-way can do that.

 

RollinCoal:

I noticed the same thing and thought I was crazy. Thanks for confirming this!

1 Ton trucks and rough Maine roads probably did it for me! I got 2 sets of the nuts from 2 places by accident, I guess I'll leave 2 on for each wheel as well. This is actually a relief cause I was getting upset why my truck started vibrating again at higher speeds after a couple hundred miles after I finally got it to stop and rotated tires...

 

Yea dzl damon I was thinking what coulda gone wrong with mine now. Then after thinking about going over the curb a few times then I realized I moved the wheel or wheels again. I had no idea that just putting pressure against them would move them so easy. I used 4wheel drive low and just creaped over the curb so not to jar the front end or disturb the curb but that was all it took.

 

I definately hit many Maine potholes at 60mph

 

The very reason for Chrysler's ridiculously high, stud fatiguing, 300-ft-pds torque recommendation was in an attempt to prevent the wheels scooting around behind the flanged lug-nuts.

A decent set of old-timey conical nuts will hold the wheels centered until the cows come home at about a third of the torque required for the flanged ones.