High Steer. Good? Not Good?
#1
High Steer. Good? Not Good?
Ever since I saw a high steer set-up for the Dana 60 I've thought this was slicker than hot chicken fat on a stuck door ****.
Puts the steering geometry back where it should be for a lifted truck, eliminates bump steer, and evens out the steering radius.
Recently I read that it's not a good idea on the street because of stress.
Wouldn't you stress that set-up more off road and rock climbing than driving on pavement?
The set-up I thought was best consisted of drilling the upper plate with a tapered drill bit and using tie rod ends instead of "rod ends" on the "crossover" link. Maybe even using double thickness tubing for the crossover link too (one inside the other).
Although talking to my ex-boss at the race car shop (he builds 'em) he said the quality and size of spherical 'rod ends' you can obtain today are far stronger than years ago. He did also say when I pressed him (and reminded him of the weight of the Cummins) that if you were "worried" about them holding-up on the street, you could check 'em often and replace them every few years. He also said he thought that using tie rod ends would be just as strong as stock, maybe stronger.
Am I completely wrong on this? Are my hopes and dreams for a truck that's fun to drive and goes where I point it shattered?
Please...say it ain't so.
Vinny
Puts the steering geometry back where it should be for a lifted truck, eliminates bump steer, and evens out the steering radius.
Recently I read that it's not a good idea on the street because of stress.
Wouldn't you stress that set-up more off road and rock climbing than driving on pavement?
The set-up I thought was best consisted of drilling the upper plate with a tapered drill bit and using tie rod ends instead of "rod ends" on the "crossover" link. Maybe even using double thickness tubing for the crossover link too (one inside the other).
Although talking to my ex-boss at the race car shop (he builds 'em) he said the quality and size of spherical 'rod ends' you can obtain today are far stronger than years ago. He did also say when I pressed him (and reminded him of the weight of the Cummins) that if you were "worried" about them holding-up on the street, you could check 'em often and replace them every few years. He also said he thought that using tie rod ends would be just as strong as stock, maybe stronger.
Am I completely wrong on this? Are my hopes and dreams for a truck that's fun to drive and goes where I point it shattered?
Please...say it ain't so.
Vinny
#3
I had crossover on a 1984 chev with a 454, 9 inches of lift and 38.5 inch tires. I loved it, it worked great. Off road design makes quality stuff, and it tested to the limit by them ; and me lol.
#6
Highsteer is pretty much the same thing as crossover but you also move the tierod above the springs rather them leaving it on the stock location you will also need to install another Driverside arm to do highsteer. Crossover is one steering arm on the pass side and moves the draglink from a push pull set up to a side to side set up (move the drag link from the steering box to across to the PS steering arm, where the stock set up is from the steering box back to the DS steering arm).
#7
Crossover on my chevy works great. I would add that most people find that they start cracking the frame at the steering box (on chevies) when pushing a crossover system hard. The side to side forces are greater i think. Not sure if this is an issue on the dodges but worth a mention. I already have my frame reinforcement bracket for my dodge, even without crossover it never hurts to have.
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#8
Thanks for the info.
My frame already broke in an ugly way even with the reinforcement bracket. It's been welded and reinforced in that area.
Don't remember if we made the bracket a permanent part of the frame at that moment.
Anybody got a picture of their crossover set-up?
Anybody know why you put the steering box in the 2 wheel drive position?
Thanks,
Vinny
My frame already broke in an ugly way even with the reinforcement bracket. It's been welded and reinforced in that area.
Don't remember if we made the bracket a permanent part of the frame at that moment.
Anybody got a picture of their crossover set-up?
Anybody know why you put the steering box in the 2 wheel drive position?
Thanks,
Vinny
#9
Thanks for the info.
My frame already broke in an ugly way even with the reinforcement bracket. It's been welded and reinforced in that area.
Don't remember if we made the bracket a permanent part of the frame at that moment.
Anybody got a picture of their crossover set-up?
Anybody know why you put the steering box in the 2 wheel drive position?
Thanks,
Vinny
My frame already broke in an ugly way even with the reinforcement bracket. It's been welded and reinforced in that area.
Don't remember if we made the bracket a permanent part of the frame at that moment.
Anybody got a picture of their crossover set-up?
Anybody know why you put the steering box in the 2 wheel drive position?
Thanks,
Vinny
http://www.thurenfabrication.com/crossover.html
I'm running it on the street, a few others here are as well - just search for thuren. Great guy, great product.
#10
http://www.slide.com/r/5Fc1swrk7z_CDNSNofSr7eS2GRlJrssA here is my old truck with crossover on it
#11
http://www.offroaddesign.com/catalog...0crossover.htm
http://www.sky-manufacturing.com/new...uct.php?id=164
These are the two I know about.
http://www.sky-manufacturing.com/new...uct.php?id=164
These are the two I know about.
#12
Here too for the canadians in the bunch (They are in BC):
http://www.northwestfab.com/complete60kit.html
http://www.northwestfab.com/complete60kit.html
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