1st Gen. Ram - All Topics Discussion for all Dodge Rams prior to 1994. This includes engine, drivetrain and non-drivetrain discussions. Anything prior to 1994 should go in here.

High Steer. Good? Not Good?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-05-2010 | 04:17 AM
  #1  
vinny's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 214
Likes: 0
From: Joliet,IL
High Steer. Good? Not Good?

Ever since I saw a high steer set-up for the Dana 60 I've thought this was slicker than hot chicken fat on a stuck door ****.
Puts the steering geometry back where it should be for a lifted truck, eliminates bump steer, and evens out the steering radius.

Recently I read that it's not a good idea on the street because of stress.
Wouldn't you stress that set-up more off road and rock climbing than driving on pavement?

The set-up I thought was best consisted of drilling the upper plate with a tapered drill bit and using tie rod ends instead of "rod ends" on the "crossover" link. Maybe even using double thickness tubing for the crossover link too (one inside the other).
Although talking to my ex-boss at the race car shop (he builds 'em) he said the quality and size of spherical 'rod ends' you can obtain today are far stronger than years ago. He did also say when I pressed him (and reminded him of the weight of the Cummins) that if you were "worried" about them holding-up on the street, you could check 'em often and replace them every few years. He also said he thought that using tie rod ends would be just as strong as stock, maybe stronger.

Am I completely wrong on this? Are my hopes and dreams for a truck that's fun to drive and goes where I point it shattered?

Please...say it ain't so.
Vinny
Old 12-05-2010 | 10:56 AM
  #2  
huntinguy's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 321
Likes: 0
Why do you need high steer? Just go with crossover.
Old 12-05-2010 | 11:17 AM
  #3  
454 no more's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 112
Likes: 0
From: Ottawa Ontario canada
I had crossover on a 1984 chev with a 454, 9 inches of lift and 38.5 inch tires. I loved it, it worked great. Off road design makes quality stuff, and it tested to the limit by them ; and me lol.
Old 12-05-2010 | 11:17 AM
  #4  
simplysmn's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,273
Likes: 1
From: Apple Valley Ca.
I don't see a need for high steer on the street like said just go crossover
Old 12-05-2010 | 06:55 PM
  #5  
vinny's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 214
Likes: 0
From: Joliet,IL
Anybody got any web sites or pictures of just crossover?

Thanks,
Vinny
Old 12-05-2010 | 07:39 PM
  #6  
Terraizer's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 137
Likes: 0
From: Penrose Colorado
Highsteer is pretty much the same thing as crossover but you also move the tierod above the springs rather them leaving it on the stock location you will also need to install another Driverside arm to do highsteer. Crossover is one steering arm on the pass side and moves the draglink from a push pull set up to a side to side set up (move the drag link from the steering box to across to the PS steering arm, where the stock set up is from the steering box back to the DS steering arm).
Old 12-05-2010 | 08:10 PM
  #7  
BILTIT's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 2,202
Likes: 9
From: Lloydminster SK/AB
Crossover on my chevy works great. I would add that most people find that they start cracking the frame at the steering box (on chevies) when pushing a crossover system hard. The side to side forces are greater i think. Not sure if this is an issue on the dodges but worth a mention. I already have my frame reinforcement bracket for my dodge, even without crossover it never hurts to have.
Old 12-06-2010 | 04:42 AM
  #8  
vinny's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 214
Likes: 0
From: Joliet,IL
Thanks for the info.

My frame already broke in an ugly way even with the reinforcement bracket. It's been welded and reinforced in that area.
Don't remember if we made the bracket a permanent part of the frame at that moment.

Anybody got a picture of their crossover set-up?

Anybody know why you put the steering box in the 2 wheel drive position?

Thanks,
Vinny
Old 12-06-2010 | 07:41 AM
  #9  
zukota's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
From: Where PA, MD and DE meet
Originally Posted by vinny
Thanks for the info.

My frame already broke in an ugly way even with the reinforcement bracket. It's been welded and reinforced in that area.
Don't remember if we made the bracket a permanent part of the frame at that moment.

Anybody got a picture of their crossover set-up?

Anybody know why you put the steering box in the 2 wheel drive position?

Thanks,
Vinny
Thuren makes crossover kits for 2nd and 3rd gen trucks, he might have the patterns for 1st - I don't know.

http://www.thurenfabrication.com/crossover.html



I'm running it on the street, a few others here are as well - just search for thuren. Great guy, great product.
Old 12-06-2010 | 07:43 AM
  #10  
simplysmn's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,273
Likes: 1
From: Apple Valley Ca.
http://www.slide.com/r/5Fc1swrk7z_CDNSNofSr7eS2GRlJrssA here is my old truck with crossover on it
Old 12-06-2010 | 07:49 PM
  #11  
huntinguy's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 321
Likes: 0
http://www.offroaddesign.com/catalog...0crossover.htm
http://www.sky-manufacturing.com/new...uct.php?id=164
These are the two I know about.
Old 12-06-2010 | 09:11 PM
  #12  
BILTIT's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 2,202
Likes: 9
From: Lloydminster SK/AB
Here too for the canadians in the bunch (They are in BC):

http://www.northwestfab.com/complete60kit.html
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
SN162
1st Gen. Ram - All Topics
3
02-20-2012 10:49 PM
Dojman
24 Valve Engine and Drivetrain
1
03-30-2004 07:38 PM
dodgeman01
12 Valve Engine and Drivetrain
1
03-18-2004 10:04 AM
JayDee
Towing and Hauling / RV
4
02-10-2003 09:21 PM
oldred97
12 Valve Engine and Drivetrain
4
12-13-2002 08:51 PM



Quick Reply: High Steer. Good? Not Good?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:25 AM.