1st Gen. Ram - All Topics Discussion for all Dodge Rams prior to 1994. This includes engine, drivetrain and non-drivetrain discussions. Anything prior to 1994 should go in here.

electrical question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-07-2007, 08:06 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
ez_lle71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Geary Co. Kansas
Posts: 354
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
electrical question

Hey everybody,
I have noticed that on my 2 ctd's that as it gets colder, when you start them up and the headlights are on, that the voltmeter will momentarily drop a few volts and the headlights will dim. Then the voltmeter will jump back up to normal and the headlights will brighten up.It usually does this for about 5 mins or so. My Dad's 95' and my 04.5' and my 92' all do this same thing. Is it the regulator cycling or what? I was just curious and wondered if anybody else experiences this phenomena?! Thanks!!
ez
Old 10-07-2007, 08:15 PM
  #2  
Registered User
 
feveree40's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Lancaster, PA
Posts: 530
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
yeah mine does the same. I think it the heatergird on the intake preheat cycling. It only does it on days when the "wait to start" light comes on.
Old 10-07-2007, 08:17 PM
  #3  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
ez_lle71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Geary Co. Kansas
Posts: 354
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
My wait to start light cycles the same amount of time regardless of the weather. Is it supposed to do that?
ez
Old 10-07-2007, 08:22 PM
  #4  
Registered User
 
feveree40's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Lancaster, PA
Posts: 530
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
the light only comes on before you start it, and should turn off after the engine starts. the light doesn't cycle, but i think the actual heater grid turning on and off is what dims the voltage. the light should only go on when its below 40 or so, at least thats when mine goes on.
Old 10-07-2007, 08:43 PM
  #5  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
ez_lle71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Geary Co. Kansas
Posts: 354
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by feveree40
the light only comes on before you start it, and should turn off after the engine starts. the light doesn't cycle, but i think the actual heater grid turning on and off is what dims the voltage. the light should only go on when its below 40 or so, at least thats when mine goes on.
That is what mine does. If i don't wait for it to go out and i start the truck, it does go out when it starts. Should you always wait for the WTS light to go out before you start it, does it hurt anything if you don't? Just wondering
ez
Old 10-07-2007, 08:56 PM
  #6  
Registered User
 
feveree40's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Lancaster, PA
Posts: 530
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
doesn't hurt anything, just might start a little harder if its real cold.
Old 10-07-2007, 09:33 PM
  #7  
1st Generation Admin
 
BC847's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Buies Creek, NC
Posts: 4,601
Received 117 Likes on 61 Posts
The charge-air heater(s) draw 220 amps when operating. You're stock/OEM alternator puts out 160 amps when at the right engine RPM.

Do the math . . . . ..

I can't recall the exact temperature (60*F ?), but when it's cooler outside, the heaters will cycle till the engine coolant temperature comes up. It's an emissions thing.

Many are concerned about it none the less and feel they must disconnect them. Their trucks run just fine albeit perhaps with a little initial white smoke.

Originally Posted by ez_lle71
That is what mine does. If i don't wait for it to go out and i start the truck, it does go out when it starts. Should you always wait for the WTS light to go out before you start it, does it hurt anything if you don't? Just wondering
ez
The wait to start lamp allows the aforementioned charge-air heaters a chance to warm up correctly before you hit the starter.
Old 10-07-2007, 10:37 PM
  #8  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
ez_lle71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Geary Co. Kansas
Posts: 354
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks BC. I wondered what was going on. Thanks for the help. And thanks feveree40 for the answer too. later guys
ez
Old 10-08-2007, 06:46 AM
  #9  
Administrator
 
Jim Lane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Southern California
Posts: 4,083
Received 232 Likes on 161 Posts
Originally Posted by BC847
The charge-air heater(s) draw 220 amps when operating. You're stock/OEM alternator puts out 160 amps when at the right engine RPM.
Do the math . . . . ..

I can't recall the exact temperature (60*F ?), but when it's cooler outside, the heaters will cycle till the engine coolant temperature comes up. It's an emissions thing.

Many are concerned about it none the less and feel they must disconnect them. Their trucks run just fine albeit perhaps with a little initial white smoke.



The wait to start lamp allows the aforementioned charge-air heaters a chance to warm up correctly before you hit the starter.
Your stock ND alternator should be only 120 amps.
Jim
Old 10-08-2007, 04:53 PM
  #10  
1st Generation Admin
 
BC847's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Buies Creek, NC
Posts: 4,601
Received 117 Likes on 61 Posts
Oops! I must have been thinking of your upgraded alt Jim.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
AggiePhil
Performance and Accessories 2nd gen only
19
02-09-2005 07:53 PM
apache
General Diesel Discussion
7
09-22-2004 10:48 AM
schorb
3rd Gen High Performance and Accessories (5.9L Only)
4
08-19-2004 08:25 AM
tool
Other
8
02-07-2004 12:25 AM
White02Sport
Performance and Accessories 2nd gen only
5
10-06-2002 07:11 PM



Quick Reply: electrical question



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:18 AM.