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Did anybody figured out outboard brake drums for the dana 70

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Old 01-19-2016, 11:42 AM
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Did anybody figured out outboard brake drums for the dana 70
I know there was some speculation about the Dana 80 drums working
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love to know! I presume you mean drums which don't require pulling the axle/hub for shoe replacements!

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I would sure love to know. I still haven't figured out why anyone would make an inboard brake axle in the first place.
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love to know! I presume you mean drums which don't require pulling the axle/hub for shoe replacements!

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exactly.
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Originally Posted by mknittle
exactly.
This question was posed several months ago by a forum member in Northern Europe who's building a crew cab but I don't think it was ever answered. Apparently the Second Gen 2500s that came with the Dana 70 had outboard brakes.
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I saw a post a while back, whether it was here or another forum I do not recall. It was mentioned that dodge sold an outboard hub/drum combo for these. I have never looked into it any further than that.
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Sure would be nice.
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Originally Posted by 1972RedNeck
I would sure love to know. I still haven't figured out why anyone would make an inboard brake axle in the first place.
The advantage is you can change your brake shoes without having to unscrew a single lug nut lol, and you have no excuse not to repack your bearings!
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Originally Posted by peckens
The advantage is you can change your brake shoes without having to unscrew a single lug nut lol, and you have no excuse not to repack your bearings!
with my bad back I still have to take the wheels off. Besides that I have never packed a rear wheel bearing.
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I just came across the info of the 2nd Gen units not having to remove the axles to service their brakes. I did not know about this, so I asked...here was the response.

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Going to ask a silly question since I'm not a 2nd Gen guy really. Do your rear Dana axles have drums that pop off without having to pull your axles?
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Hey TC, not a silly Q at all! On my '99 the drums just slide off without having to pull the axles. I have a Dana 70 rear end. Speaking of which, I get to tear it all apart today as I am going to put new axle/wheel seals in today to fix some minor weeping. Also a great opportunity to examine the rear brakes and change out the diff oil for some fresh 75W-90.

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Since it's a Dana axle why could we not just pull the whole drum assembly and slip it onto our axle?

Might be issues with the size of the axle tube threaded tubes and length, or bearings?
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Originally Posted by thrashingcows
I just came across the info of the 2nd Gen units not having to remove the axles to service their brakes. I did not know about this, so I asked...here was the response.



Since it's a Dana axle why could we not just pull the whole drum assembly and slip it onto our axle?

Might be issues with the size of the axle tube threaded tubes and length, or bearings?
Cool This is very interesting. Thanks Brian
Being a 70 it may be an easy swap. First thing to check would be drum measurements.
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Cool This is very interesting. Thanks Brian
Being a 70 it may be an easy swap. First thing to check would be drum measurements.
I was thinking take everything from the backing plates forward.
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Originally Posted by thrashingcows
I was thinking take everything from the backing plates forward.
Yeah the drums are different depth wise so likely the backing plate is different
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Even if you could do this, wouldn't it extend your rear wheel base? In otherwords, wouldnt your rear wheels be sticking way out? Unless you replaced the rear rims with a different offset, but then your fronts would be off. So then you would have to buy 4 new rims and run a spacer up front. Is my logic correct?
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Originally Posted by peckens
Even if you could do this, wouldn't it extend your rear wheel base? In otherwords, wouldnt your rear wheels be sticking way out? Unless you replaced the rear rims with a different offset, but then your fronts would be off. So then you would have to buy 4 new rims and run a spacer up front. Is my logic correct?
Can't see the drum/hub assembly, if it was a direct swap over, extending your track width that much....maybe 1/2"? Or it might not effect the track width at all?
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