1st Gen. Ram - All Topics Discussion for all Dodge Rams prior to 1994. This includes engine, drivetrain and non-drivetrain discussions. Anything prior to 1994 should go in here.

Desired 1st gen?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-30-2009, 04:05 PM
  #31  
Registered User
 
92'1stGen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Southern Maryland
Posts: 795
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have the exact 1st Gen I want, just not the desired transmission. If I ever find a parts truck, or the components that are needed in good condition, then I'll swap the auto out for a 5 speed in a heart beat.
Old 09-30-2009, 04:53 PM
  #32  
Registered User
 
PapeCAT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,656
Received 80 Likes on 56 Posts
Originally Posted by Benjamin b2
i dont belive in that hole frame issue
What isn't to believe about the frame issue?

The fact is that Chrysler was replacing Trucks on warranty in 1989/1990 based on frame breakage issues and it prompted them to make the frame bigger to correct that problem. No, not every frame broke but it is most definitely an issue.
Old 09-30-2009, 05:26 PM
  #33  
Registered User
 
Crossy's son's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Quinton, New Jersey (middle of nowhere)
Posts: 7,547
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Benjamin b2
i dont belive in that hole frame issue, now if i was puttin 2000lbs of john deere suit case weights then yes the frame might have an issue, but i load it every day and its not a problem yet, a non ic truck that has been ic runs pretty strong, but i hate power windows and crusie control, ac and all that stuff that takes another fuse and never works right, just a place to collect more dirt. i do like the warn hubs instead of the slectomatics that break when the tire falls on it.
Just thinking about it makes me sad... the same frame that is on our 90 D150 gasser w/3.9v6.... is the same frame under our 91 D250 CUMMINS....lol

Gasser frame + diesel = bad
Old 09-30-2009, 05:32 PM
  #34  
TWX
Registered User
 
TWX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Where were the frames breaking, though? If they were bending or breaking closer to the bed because people were overloading them then I wouldn't necessarily call that the truck's fault. If they were twisting due to the torque then that's another matter.
Old 09-30-2009, 05:34 PM
  #35  
Registered User
 
Crossy's son's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Quinton, New Jersey (middle of nowhere)
Posts: 7,547
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by TWX
Where were the frames breaking, though? If they were bending or breaking closer to the bed because people were overloading them then I wouldn't necessarily call that the truck's fault. If they were twisting due to the torque then that's another matter.
Around the steering box. Probably because of torque and the weight of the front-end
Old 09-30-2009, 05:41 PM
  #36  
Registered User
 
Benjamin b2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Spokane WA, Family Farm
Posts: 618
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i mean i dont worry about the hole frame issue because one ive never seen one break and two i have a welder, ive seen more second gens break the frames than first gens, the tally is up to 4, i realy trying to say i dont belive in worring about buy a truck with a small frame.
Old 09-30-2009, 06:51 PM
  #37  
TWX
Registered User
 
TWX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Crossy's son
Around the steering box. Probably because of torque and the weight of the front-end
Aw heck, a friend's '72 3/4 ton camper special 2wd that was parked after the tranny was messed up at 40,000 miles had cracks in the front near the steering, and it was a 400ci big block truck. They appear to have had a moderate weakness up there that is just endemic to the chassis. He ended up fixing his with some reinforcing brackets while he had the front completely disassembled.

I wouldn't blame sticking a Cummins on the frame as the cause. If anything, overly-powerful power steering might be at least somewhat to blame.
Old 09-30-2009, 08:44 PM
  #38  
Registered User
 
dieselcrazyw350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: sacramento, CA
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by PapeCAT
Sure you can come check it out, are you the guy who came over and got the steering box from me?
yeah thats me.
Old 09-30-2009, 08:55 PM
  #39  
Registered User
 
DennyT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Waco, Texas
Posts: 307
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The issues that some have with the automatics allowed me to score this rig for super cheap. Its an auto and the sales guy SWORE up and down that the "turbo" was bad. He said over and over...."man it wont get out of its own way". He kinda felt bad about selling it to me thinking it was broke.....

Heres one to gutless stock autos......WOOHOO!!

BTW just my .02, 92-93 ext cab, 5 speed 4x4 OR single cab 4x4 dually 5 speed

Name:  newdodge002.jpg
Views: 21
Size:  95.0 KB
Old 09-30-2009, 09:00 PM
  #40  
Registered User
 
thrub's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Luseland Sask.
Posts: 394
Received 24 Likes on 22 Posts
If you try hard enough you can break the larger frame too. I broke my '93 up front by the steering box. Overloaded 4x4ing through almost 2 feet of snow over frozen cow crap.
Old 10-09-2009, 11:56 PM
  #41  
Registered User
 
prairie pirate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Humboldt, Sask. Canada
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
a lot of guys i know are after the 12 valve CTD just cuz they are so easy to boost up. most popular choices are the 3/4t 4x4 club cabs with the 5 speed. i lucked out last year and found a 92 clubber with 53,000kms, but it had the auto tranny with o/d. i wasnt going to pass it up tho!. truth of the matter is you gotta find something YOU like and have the means to support it.
the down side is that the 1st gens aftermarket parts are getting tough to track down. i've found most of what i've been looking for, but it still takes patience and good connections. good luck!
Old 10-10-2009, 07:44 AM
  #42  
Registered User
 
Crossy's son's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Quinton, New Jersey (middle of nowhere)
Posts: 7,547
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by DennyT
The issues that some have with the automatics allowed me to score this rig for super cheap. Its an auto and the sales guy SWORE up and down that the "turbo" was bad. He said over and over...."man it wont get out of its own way". He kinda felt bad about selling it to me thinking it was broke.....

Heres one to gutless stock autos......WOOHOO!!

BTW just my .02, 92-93 ext cab, 5 speed 4x4 OR single cab 4x4 dually 5 speed

dang that looks like a nice truck, and i LOVE that bumper. Any names on it??? The auto trucks run OK with a few tweaks...without a converter or anything.

but thats funny the salesman actually thought it was broke it was so slow, probably not even getting full throttle travel right.
Old 10-10-2009, 12:27 PM
  #43  
Registered User
 
NO_SPRK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Santa Rosa, Ca
Posts: 673
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Didn't we discuss the frame thing? My SRW one tons frame is bigger then my friends 3/4 ton (same year 91.0)
Old 10-10-2009, 08:55 PM
  #44  
Registered User
 
Crossy's son's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Quinton, New Jersey (middle of nowhere)
Posts: 7,547
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by NO_SPRK
Didn't we discuss the frame thing? My SRW one tons frame is bigger then my friends 3/4 ton (same year 91.0)
Makes perfect sense, Thats exactly what ive seen

a 91.0 W350 SRW next to a 91.0 W250 and they were differnt...
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
92GhostRyder
1st Gen. Ram - All Topics
27
09-16-2018 12:02 PM
BRUISER
1st Gen. Ram - All Topics
11
02-02-2015 11:25 AM
mullishacrew
1st Gen. Ram - All Topics
2
12-02-2009 07:01 AM
pulltilbroke
1st Gen. Ram - All Topics
40
04-10-2009 02:08 PM
csft
1st Gen. Ram - All Topics
5
11-24-2008 01:14 PM



Quick Reply: Desired 1st gen?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:27 PM.