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Old 02-11-2012, 03:31 PM
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Bolt in Hydro Boost conversion!!!

Let me start by saying this mod is not a cheap upgrade. Others have done this considerably cheaper with used units and wrecking yard parts. However I put a considerable amount of research into this and from that went this route.

I started by contacting Talon Hydraulics, I spoke with the owner Butch and discussed my needs. He advised me that a truck with ABS even rear wheel needs a special hydro unit. I agreed to send him my vacuum booster to take dimensions from and create a mount and a pedal push rod. After a few days he sent me this



Pictured above is one of their high output new units. He also has reman units ready to go . price differance is around $50.00

Here is a close up of the firewall mount and push rod



I sourced lines and the master cylinder from a local auto supply, they are for a 1996 Chevy K3500 truck with the JB8 heavy break option.



I also wanted to put a cooler in the system while doing this so; From Auto Zone I picked up this small power steering cooler.



You will also need this Vacuum tee to complete the install and reconnect the vac. lines connected to the removed check valve on the booster.



Here I have mounted the unit to the fire wall with the hardware supplied with the booster.





I also mounted the Master cylinder and fitted the break lines; the front line needs to be remade with a new master side nut.



I also installed a new power-steering pump from a 1999 RAM 2500 with dual returns to accommodate the steering gear and the hydro boost.



Mounted the new cooler onto the A/C condenser and ran the hoses.

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I fit up the other pressure and return lines with slight bending for clearance and proper fit to the truck



Add all the fluids and bled both systems; Power steering took 1 1/2 gallons of fluid. I added about two quarts of break fluid to the system after full bleed down.

This system will throw you thru the windshield if you are used to the stopping of the OEM system. This has been by far the best upgrade I have done. I have roughly $550.00 in the complete system + fluids. Let me know what you all think.
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Looks good. I'm one of those cheap asses that used junkyard parts and it still provides the 'throw-you-through-the-windshield' braking action compared to stock.

I used the same hard lines and pump as well, which I did buy those new (eventually) as my stock p/s pump started leaking (had T'd the return lines together at first) and one of the lines had a pin hole in it.
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Originally Posted by fitter48093


Let me know what you all think.
Well, I like the way you did the work, and it looks really neat and professional.

Not real sure how a plastic tee will hold up, but I'm sure you'll let us know if you had to switch it over to brass.

I don't know if I like the idea of being thrown up against the windshield in my truck. I think I'll start using my seat belt.... thanks for the reminder

I think you'll miss that lapse in braking and the "swoooooosh" that you used to have when you applied your brakes with the stock booster setup. No more "Swooooosh" .... I just don't know....
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The Plastic T is for the vac lines
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Originally Posted by simplysmn
The Plastic T is for the vac lines
DOH !

I missed that.... as if you couldn't tell.

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93 dodge takes 2.7 pts power steering fluid your telling me there's 144 ounces in the in the hydo & cooling system. WoW

Now my ?s

Why didnt you go with a remote reservoir style power steering pump?

Why no filter?

What with the vacuum plastic hose fitting?


Other than my Qs looks great.
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For the fluid you are correct. I bought a gallon the first trip to the store, used about a quart to flush the old system and needed to return for a second gallon. After test drive and topping off about 1 quart left.

No filter because everthing is new, and I was concerned with pressure drop after the cooler.

The plastic tee is needed to tie all the vacuum system together. I removed the check valve when the vac booster was removed so I used the tee in it's place.
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i want to do the same thing,, i am tired of double pumping the brakes,,,,,

contact # for booster and maybe a list of part #,s
thanks
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Originally Posted by fitter48093
For the fluid you are correct. I bought a gallon the first trip to the store, used about a quart to flush the old system and needed to return for a second gallon. After test drive and topping off about 1 quart left.

I guess I better get some more

No filter because everthing is new, and I was concerned with pressure drop after the cooler.

I'll be putting one on there cheap.. BTW your steering gear is old

The plastic tee is needed to tie all the vacuum system together. I removed the check valve when the vac booster was removed so I used the tee in it's place.
Thank you I guess I was really S O S oh well.

Been looking into this upgrade also.

I'll going with a remote tank easier to check & fill.
I was also thinking more fluid but now

If I didnt say it before looks great.
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Originally Posted by bobva

Thank you I guess I was really S O S oh well.

Been looking into this upgrade also.

I'll going with a remote tank easier to check & fill.
I was also thinking more fluid but now

If I didn't say it before looks great.
You might be right on the filter, Maybe I should of considered it. I couldn't find a good remote tank setup. I think you would need one from a newer third gen truck than have to change out the pulley to the vac. pump drive and figure out a mount.
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Heres my plan

Take 93 cummins pump and a 85 w350 style pump
http://ramchargercentral.com/technic...-hydro-assist/

remove and swap pump tanks

http://www.corvette-restoration.com/...mp_rebuild.htm

You can use the control valve system out of the 93 cummins or the 85 w350 they are both metric just dont mix up the parts.

The upper tank can be any homebrew look you want.
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Originally Posted by bobva
Heres my plan

Take 93 cummins pump and a 85 w350 style pump
http://ramchargercentral.com/technic...-hydro-assist/

remove and swap pump tanks

http://www.corvette-restoration.com/...mp_rebuild.htm

You can use the control valve system out of the 93 cummins or the 85 w350 they are both metric just dont mix up the parts.

The upper tank can be any homebrew look you want.
I don't think you would have to swap tanks. Use the '85 pump with the drive adapter from the '93 pump.
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Has your power steering changed since installing this setup?
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Remote tank
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Speedw...anks,2062.html

Thats just a one of a million.


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