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Old 12-24-2008 | 07:24 AM
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Block Heater Install question and experiment.

First off. Could i install a second block heater in another freeze plug hole on the drivers side somewhere?.
Second. If i can i am going to buy one and take temp. measurements of the single heater and the temp measurements of both heaters. Any one do this before? Any suggestions or ideas to improve this idea? Thanks
Old 12-24-2008 | 07:37 AM
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You can install a second block heater in a freeze plug hole on the passenger side, but not on the driverside. You have to ask yourself, where are all my freeze plugs located? That will help you answer your question .
Old 12-24-2008 | 07:42 AM
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I went out and look at the motor... and i cant install any of the drivers side cause there is no freeze plugs...DUH!!!
Old 12-24-2008 | 07:44 AM
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but anyways would it make in the coolant temp if i added a second one? The freeze plug directly under my turbo has a rubber expansion plug put in. I could just screw that and add a heater. correct? or am i think stupidly again.
Old 12-24-2008 | 08:03 AM
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instead of anther block heater how about oil pan heater? the factory block heater does heat everything up pretty quick, take a look at the post DNRcustoms did a few weeks back. he gave temp readings over a period of time.
Old 12-24-2008 | 09:47 AM
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Better by far and less intrusive would be to PROPERLY install one of these :


http://www.amazon.com/Kats-12080-Wat...133388&sr=8-19



They make these up to 2500-Watts, maybe more.


I had one of the bigger-Wattage ones on my Ford, prior to the engine swap, and the temp-gauge would be up a little after a few hours.

I am aiming to re-install it on the Cummins, just haven't taken the time.
Old 12-24-2008 | 07:23 PM
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What are you trying to accomplish? More heat, faster heat, or easier starting with less wear?

The factory heater provides plenty of heat, but a pan heater like archer39 suggested would make cranking easier and get oil flow faster.
Old 12-24-2008 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by wannadiesel
What are you trying to accomplish? More heat, faster heat, or easier starting with less wear?

The factory heater provides plenty of heat, but a pan heater like archer39 suggested would make cranking easier and get oil flow faster.
I am trying to accomplish all three really. i theory was if there is more heat i will have less "no oil pressure time" and will have heat in the cab quicker. I already have a winter front that buttons to the grille.
Old 12-25-2008 | 07:02 AM
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Cummins sells two different block heaters; 750 Watt & 1000 Watt versions. I don't have the part numbers. The 1000 Watt is about $15 more than the 750 Watt version. www.tndiesel.com currently has the 1000 Watters on sale for $60.
Old 12-25-2008 | 10:14 AM
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Ford used to put dual heaters on the 351CI and bigger V8's in the 80's, My 460 powered F250 ended up with a pair of 1000W units in it(one on each side.) That's the kind of stuff that will keep the hood melted off at -20...

The circulating pump style heaters are the cats meow if you have a place to plug in though, as they heat everything, not just what's in the block.

The ultimate solution, and what I intend on getting eventually is a fuel fired unit, probably going to be an Espar. They heat up the engine pretty quick, regulate temp between 150 and 175, and can be wired into the heater blower to heat the interior up prior to starting the truck too.
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There is a larger capacity oil pan with a built in plug/bung for a factory oil pan heater available from Cummins. It's a 4 gallon capacity vs. 3 gallon Dodge oil pan. They are in use on over the road Freightliners and Ford 6BT trucks. Just an option if one wanted the bling factor of a larger oil pan and oil pan heater.
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Originally Posted by bgilbert
There is a larger capacity oil pan with a built in plug/bung for a factory oil pan heater available from Cummins. It's a 4 gallon capacity vs. 3 gallon Dodge oil pan. They are in use on over the road Freightliners and Ford 6BT trucks. Just an option if one wanted the bling factor of a larger oil pan and oil pan heater.



??????Clearance issues ?????
Old 12-25-2008 | 12:06 PM
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??????Clearance issues ?????
Certainly none on a 4wd, a 1st gen puller buddy of mine had one, ground/obstacle clearance issues maybe on a 2wd.
Old 12-25-2008 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bgilbert
There is a larger capacity oil pan with a built in plug/bung for a factory oil pan heater available from Cummins. It's a 4 gallon capacity vs. 3 gallon Dodge oil pan. They are in use on over the road Freightliners and Ford 6BT trucks. Just an option if one wanted the bling factor of a larger oil pan and oil pan heater.
So it clears the factory cross member? Sounds like its just deeper on the rear section?

Happen to have a part number?

Aaron
Old 12-25-2008 | 12:37 PM
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So it clears the factory cross member? Sounds like its just deeper on the rear section?

Happen to have a part number?

Aaron
Yes a deeper sump at the rear. I could probly get a part number next time I'm at the junkyard.
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