I did my timing using the spill port method.I used the drop valve method to get tdc.The engine cam pin will go in but not real easy.The pump pin was lined up before I began.I came up with 1.26 on the right side of my tdc mark from the air slowed down to almost nothing mark.I figured that to 14.6 degres.The factory setting is 13.5.Would like to get someone to double check my figures.I was planing on bumping it up to 16 .This is a 98 12 valve pretty much stock.....thanks Robert