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Part # for speedy sleeve (wear sleeve) KDP

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Old 04-27-2005, 06:54 PM
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Part # for speedy sleeve (wear sleeve) KDP

I am going to be installing the TST Killer Dowel Pin Fix Kit. I don't think it includes a speedy sleeve so i would like to have one on hand in case it is needed.

In the TST kit is has a cummins box with part # 3804899 on it.
Any recommendations on where to find this info?

Thanks, Kurtis
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Speedy sleeve??
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I would think you would only need a speedy sleeve if the seal had worn a groove in the crankshaft. When I did the KDP on my 1997 I even re-used the crank seal.
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you won't need one, my truck had just under 300k miles when I bought it, fixed the kdp and the crank surface was fine.
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whats a speedy sleeve. the kit comes with a crankshaft seal and a plastic sleeve to help install it is that sleeve what your talking about
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A speedy sleeve is a thin metal sleve that installs over the end of the crankshaft to repair a groove that has worn into the crankshaft from the old seal.

This might help. Speedy sleeve
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When you use a Speedy Sleeve you also have to use a seal with a larger id to match it. The Cummins seal won't work. No need for a SS on the front shaft anyways since you can install the new seal a little shallower or deeper to avoid a groove.

Normally a groove won't be worn into the shaft unless a leak has gone on for a while. It's the abrasive action of dust and grit in the leaking oil that wears a groove in the shaft.
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from what i understand you also need to buy a special tool from cummins to install the speedy sleeve and it's about $300. just did my kdp and the crank was fine there was a rust line between the two sealing surfaces which i just cleaned off with some 400 grit wet paper. the old seal was leaking but the new one is fine now i have 275,000 km on it.
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Originally posted by ccmckee
from what i understand you also need to buy a special tool from cummins to install the speedy sleeve and it's about $300. just did my kdp and the crank was fine there was a rust line between the two sealing surfaces which i just cleaned off with some 400 grit wet paper. the old seal was leaking but the new one is fine now i have 275,000 km on it.
thats only on the rear

the front uses a "speedy sleve" that comes with the tool to instal it on the crank (comes as a kit from cummins)

the rear wear sleve does use a larger seal cause the wear sleve is so thick

the front wear sleve is only 10-15 tho so the seal will fit over it


Also kurtis I found out the front crank seal surface is 2.5" OD
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Originally posted by infidel
No need for a SS on the front shaft anyways since you can install the new seal a little shallower or deeper to avoid a groove.

this is true IF the guy a cummins who put the engine together put the seal in the outer most point, BUT if he started at the innermost point there is a chance the crank will be rust pitted and will chew up the new seal
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Jason i guess I will just hope everything works out. If not I will by one then redo that part.

I will call you tomarroo.
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