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Old 05-07-2007 | 11:29 PM
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Okay So I'm almost certain I want a 91-93 12V...

However, I need to make sure that I'm not going to run into trouble due to the recent deisel fuel alterations.

1. Will I need to add an additive to each tank of fuel?

2. If I do and I don't add it, how long before my pumps fail?

3. Why the hell did they have to **** up diesel?
Old 05-07-2007 | 11:54 PM
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You'd prolly have better luck in the 1st gen forum....But I 'd guess you'll okay. When I was looking at trucks, I seem to remember the rotary pump being happy having anything thrown at it. I the age/styling and lack of "after market" made me deiced on a 2g.
Old 05-08-2007 | 12:08 AM
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ALWAYS use a lubricity additive to keep the pump lubed.
Old 05-08-2007 | 12:11 AM
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isn't diesel itself a good enough lubricant? I haven't put any additives in yet, wasn't really sure if I should or not.
Old 05-08-2007 | 12:17 AM
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No, diesel used to have a lot more sulfur in it, now it's like 10 or 15 parts per million (basically none), so needs additives to keep the pump happy.
Old 05-08-2007 | 12:41 AM
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yeah Im almost certain I want a first gen too....as a second truck(aka play toy) Ive been in extremely long negotiations with the significant other as to why I need one but so far Im beating a dead horse
Old 05-08-2007 | 02:24 AM
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lol Well good luck with the wife.


Anyways, sorry I didn't notice the first gen forum.

anyway, I heard the cummins are pretty resitant to any problems, but the low sulphur will probably put a strain on the pump.
Old 05-08-2007 | 04:36 AM
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I'm with you guys on the first gen. I fought with my wife for a year about the positive traits of a first gen. The wife finally won out and I ended up with a second gen. Now I have the second gen I absolutely love it and the comforts the second gen has. I have always loved old school stuff, but the 2nd gen is the perfect compromise.
Old 05-08-2007 | 07:13 AM
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I've owned all 3 generations, and although the 1st gen trucks are built "tough as nails", for ride quality reasons (and for a locking TC if you want an automatic) I'd go with a '94 or newer truck. My old '92 rode like a lumber-wagon with those front leaf springs.
Old 05-08-2007 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by WildBill
ALWAYS use a lubricity additive to keep the pump lubed.

"Without data - it's just another opinion..."

I have not run one single additive in six years of ownership - including one full year of low sulfer diesel. Guess what? No pump problems at all. Just change your fuel filter on schedule, you'll be fine (at least with a P-7100 pump as on a second-gen.)
Old 05-08-2007 | 09:04 AM
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I've had my 2500 for quite some time now, and I've never had problems with it concerning not using additives. 3500 seems to be fine too...
Old 05-08-2007 | 12:26 PM
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I've had my truck for 8yrs, I'm sitting at 170k never used an additive and never had a problem with the pump or anything else except the tranny but that been fixed.
Old 05-08-2007 | 04:14 PM
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I've had mine since new, 296,000 miles and the pump has never been touched or timed and the starwheel turned back to stock. Occasional Lucas treatment in the fuel. Engine still purrs at 20 mpg empty. Everything else has been replaced. It runs so well I'm going to put her back to new.
Old 05-08-2007 | 05:25 PM
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Cool

If you do decide to choose a classic 1st generation, go with a '92 or '93 as they come with the intercooler. If you go with an automatic, in those years it'll be the A518 3sp w/OD. The OEM converter . .. . . well, .. . stinks. You'd do well to upgrade it to a tighter design. If you don't plan on towing very heavy and often, stick with the 3.5x gearing.

As the original owner of a '93 W250, I've never as a regular thing ran any kind of a fuel additive. Done just fine for over 220K miles. With +30hp injectors and a little more air, I can cough up 240 some horse power and 520ft/lb on #2.

Old 05-08-2007 | 07:09 PM
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nice 1st gen. I am looking at a 91-93 because I am in the price range of 5-6K dollars. not much I know. but that's what I have to work with. If I could, I'd have an 01 short bed extended cab 24v.

However the construction company down the street's selling a bunch of 96 powerstrokes for cheap. I might have to consider that even though I'm a mopar man at heart.



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