Injector Shims
#1
Injector Shims
I want to upgrade to DDP 75hp injectors in the long run, but in light of recent head work, I think I'll wait for now. I can easily get by with my stock injectors, but I do need to shim them as they pop test at 3200psi. Other than that, the spray pattern is decent and they don't leak a bit. They seem to work flawlessly.
Anybody know where to get a shim kit? Or any other info on shimming them that would be helpful? ie. size of shims, X thickness = X pressure.... It's a topic that seems to be hard to find info on.
Thanks for any help.
Anybody know where to get a shim kit? Or any other info on shimming them that would be helpful? ie. size of shims, X thickness = X pressure.... It's a topic that seems to be hard to find info on.
Thanks for any help.
#2
I'm not too sure there will be a straight correlation between shim and pop pressure, each spring will be slightly different, and will age ( weaken ) differently. At least that is my best edumacated guess. You have your own pop tester?
#3
Hi Pat,
No, I do not have my own pop tester, but I have access to a couple nice OTC ones at the shop here with the proper adapters for these Bosch injectors.
I don't mind spending some time fooling around with different thicknesses, but I need shims first.....
No, I do not have my own pop tester, but I have access to a couple nice OTC ones at the shop here with the proper adapters for these Bosch injectors.
I don't mind spending some time fooling around with different thicknesses, but I need shims first.....
#4
http://www.competitiondiesel.com/for.../t-128363.html
Remember, changing your pop pressure also changes your timing...... don't need a repeat performance!
#5
Found this old thread, may help.
http://www.competitiondiesel.com/for.../t-128363.html
Remember, changing your pop pressure also changes your timing...... don't need a repeat performance!
http://www.competitiondiesel.com/for.../t-128363.html
Remember, changing your pop pressure also changes your timing...... don't need a repeat performance!
You're right, it will change the timing. But if I up the pop pressure, that will actually retard the timing, so I should be ok. Definitely don't need a repeat performance though! lol With the head work, it'll be a piston this time....
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#8
http://www.competitiondiesel.com/for.../t-128363.html
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Try this again, if it doesn't fly, then paste the second one in without the quotations.
On edit, stupid GOOGLE...................... Try this one.
http://www.competitiondiesel.com/for...d.php?t=128363
"http://www.competitiondiesel.com/forums/archive//t-128363.html"
Try this again, if it doesn't fly, then paste the second one in without the quotations.
On edit, stupid GOOGLE...................... Try this one.
http://www.competitiondiesel.com/for...d.php?t=128363
#9
Exact same kit, better price> http://www.usdieselparts.com/index.c...tion-kit-6.cfm
#10
http://www.competitiondiesel.com/for.../t-128363.html
"http://www.competitiondiesel.com/forums/archive//t-128363.html"
Try this again, if it doesn't fly, then paste the second one in without the quotations.
On edit, stupid GOOGLE...................... Try this one.
http://www.competitiondiesel.com/for...d.php?t=128363
"http://www.competitiondiesel.com/forums/archive//t-128363.html"
Try this again, if it doesn't fly, then paste the second one in without the quotations.
On edit, stupid GOOGLE...................... Try this one.
http://www.competitiondiesel.com/for...d.php?t=128363
Exact same kit, better price> http://www.usdieselparts.com/index.c...tion-kit-6.cfm
I have the injector seat sealing washers which is what both of those kits contain. People call them shims, but they really are not shims, they are copper sealing washers....
What I need are the shims to shim up the spring inside the injector to raise my pop pressures.....
If I cannot find a kit for a decent price online, then I'm going to have to call a fuel injection shop that deals with Bosch and see if I can get them. If that fails or if it's too pricey, I guess I'll spend the time on my JD parts pages and see if I can find a JD(Bosch) injector that has shims that will fit.
#11
Yea, I knew what you wanted, but I guess the point was is you will need to find a pump shop and order them, I couldn't find any other reference to them being available as a kit or even where to order them from the Internet.
#12
Guess I was hoping someone would say "oh ya, you can use the shims from such and such and they're five bucks" !!
#13
Well guys, my fuel injection shop says $2.00 a shim and there is no "kit". They have to be ordered separately according to thickness. I asked him "Well how in the world am I supposed to know what thickness I need without the shims to stick in there and see where the pressure's at"? His reply was "Exactly". Jerk. They quoted me roughly an hour at $95/hr + shim costs to set them up for me. No thanks.
For those of you who own or have access to a pop tester, I finally found a kit online!!! Wahooooooo!!!! I bought mine here:
http://www.cumminsperformanceparts.c...nshkitasa.html
For those of you who own or have access to a pop tester, I finally found a kit online!!! Wahooooooo!!!! I bought mine here:
http://www.cumminsperformanceparts.c...nshkitasa.html
#14
Well guys, my fuel injection shop says $2.00 a shim and there is no "kit". They have to be ordered separately according to thickness. I asked him "Well how in the world am I supposed to know what thickness I need without the shims to stick in there and see where the pressure's at"? His reply was "Exactly". Jerk. They quoted me roughly an hour at $95/hr + shim costs to set them up for me. No thanks.
For those of you who own or have access to a pop tester, I finally found a kit online!!! Wahooooooo!!!! I bought mine here:
http://www.cumminsperformanceparts.c...nshkitasa.html
For those of you who own or have access to a pop tester, I finally found a kit online!!! Wahooooooo!!!! I bought mine here:
http://www.cumminsperformanceparts.c...nshkitasa.html
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