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My bet is the cam gear was the initial cause.
I know your sig says you killed the KDP but the cam gear breaking off like that is one of the things a dowel pin bouncing around in the case can do. If the dowel pin goes between the cam and crank gears, or cam and injection pump gears, it breaks the gear off the camshaft. The camshaft stops rotating causing valves to stop operating, leaving some valves open and some closed. The crankshaft continues to rotate slamming pistons into valves, and possibly ruining block, crank, rods, cylinder head, and valve train. Almost no reusable parts in this case, a complete engine swap could be required, surprised you were able to drive it home.
I know your sig says you killed the KDP but the cam gear breaking off like that is one of the things a dowel pin bouncing around in the case can do. If the dowel pin goes between the cam and crank gears, or cam and injection pump gears, it breaks the gear off the camshaft. The camshaft stops rotating causing valves to stop operating, leaving some valves open and some closed. The crankshaft continues to rotate slamming pistons into valves, and possibly ruining block, crank, rods, cylinder head, and valve train. Almost no reusable parts in this case, a complete engine swap could be required, surprised you were able to drive it home.
I wish i could figure out what really caused it but I think this is gonna be one of those "you'll never know" things.
#19
There has been a noise coming from the front side of the motor for prolly a month, so i'm with you i think it has been cracked or something for some time now.
That's what a loose dowel pin sounds like.
#20
OK, after hearing this I am thinking I should open mine up and loctite all the bolts. I staked, tabbed and loctited the KDP but sounds like the other bolts can be a problem as well?
#21
I've worked on these engines for a long time and have never come across even one where a bolt has come out and caused damage. In fact I don't remember anyone on any of the diesel message boards claiming it's happened.
I personally don't worry about it.
Where does it stop?
Should you take the entire engine apart looking for loose bolts?
I personally don't worry about it.
Where does it stop?
Should you take the entire engine apart looking for loose bolts?
#23
bill, i do that just for fun
Guess if you don't have anything else to do...
#24
Well i don't know how most people change the timing case but some like to just remove the gear and heat it up to reinstall it. A friend and i assume the guy that changed the case did the remove gear way and used a torch or something like it to heat it and made it brittle therefore the gear broke after some time. Also, no it didn't sound nothing like that infidel, it sounded more like the gear was half broke and rubbing the front cover. I also checked and no bolts were loose on the timing case and the KDP was definately killed, as it is still in there. I'm sure the cam gear is the cause of this but like i said before how will you ever know for sure, you wont.
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